Netflix/Streaming Services
08-12-2020, 17:28
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
Understand your point but Netflix is were I spend most of the limited TV watching time . Only bother with virgin TV as the package is not that much dearer than not having it ! And just using Freeview + now
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08-12-2020, 20:42
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...source=twitter
Jeff Shell (NBCU CEO) confirms Peacock will not launch in the Sky territories.
Shell added the international rollout for Peacock will avoid major markets like the UK, Germany and Italy where Comcast parent NBCUniversal has a major presence with Sky.
"Peacock is a product we will use selectively in markets," he told investors, as the AVOD's programming will still land on Sky in the UK market.
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09-12-2020, 00:46
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...source=twitter
Jeff Shell (NBCU CEO) confirms Peacock will not launch in the Sky territories.
Shell added the international rollout for Peacock will avoid major markets like the UK, Germany and Italy where Comcast parent NBCUniversal has a major presence with Sky.
"Peacock is a product we will use selectively in markets," he told investors, as the AVOD's programming will still land on Sky in the UK market.
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No real surprise. Will be interesting to see if Peacock is launched elsewhere in Europe.
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10-12-2020, 17:00
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Raider999
Having used Prime for numerous rugby and a couple of football matches over the past month, I would have to agree.
It is nowhere near the expected standard IMO
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I had a 30day trial (now cancelled) for the autumn rugby, and wasn't impressed.
Their non-live streaming was entirely what I'd have expected, but as far as the sports coverage was concerned, no it didn't tick the boxes.
I know there were some other posts on another thread here to a similar effect, and I wish I could put my finger on what was missing. But comparing the live rugby streams with Sky/BT HD pictures, there was just no contest.
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10-12-2020, 18:17
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by japitts
I had a 30day trial (now cancelled) for the autumn rugby, and wasn't impressed.
Their non-live streaming was entirely what I'd have expected, but as far as the sports coverage was concerned, no it didn't tick the boxes.
I know there were some other posts on another thread here to a similar effect, and I wish I could put my finger on what was missing. But comparing the live rugby streams with Sky/BT HD pictures, there was just no contest.
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Lack of Picture Quality was my main beef, even my wife who normally cannot tell the difference between SD/HD noticed so it must be poor.
Had a whirly sign interrupt one of the England games (presumably buffering?) - not acceptable.
The presentation was not as slick as Sky/BT - can forgive that as it was Amazon's first attempt.
However, if rugby was to be on Prime all the time I would not be happy as it would mean an extra monthly cost.
Progress - definitely not.
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11-12-2020, 02:59
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
Disney+ have announced you guessed it price rises USA will go up by $1 EU will go up by 2euros no word on UK yet but i recon it'll be a £2 price rise.
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11-12-2020, 10:20
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k
Disney+ have announced you guessed it price rises USA will go up by $1 EU will go up by 2euros no word on UK yet but i recon it'll be a £2 price rise.
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Thy're also adding Star TV (its Indian TV service) to Disney+ in Europe and doubling its annual content investment to $15bn by 2024.
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11-12-2020, 10:21
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k
Disney+ have announced you guessed it price rises USA will go up by $1 EU will go up by 2euros no word on UK yet but i recon it'll be a £2 price rise.
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Considering the amount of new Marvel and Start War content they announced, it has to be paid for somehow! Seen they announced some other Disney+ original content too (in addition to the Star TV thing for Europe) but not dug through that yet.
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11-12-2020, 13:04
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
Considering the amount of new Marvel and Start War content they announced, it has to be paid for somehow! Seen they announced some other Disney+ original content too (in addition to the Star TV thing for Europe) but not dug through that yet.
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Had confirmation Star will not be included in Disney+ cost it will be a seperate service launching Febrauary 2021.
Disney+ will rise to £7.99p/m in the UK also Disney plan to have new releases on both D+ premier and cinemas simutaniously. Still decent value imo considering the content they have.
Also yay 4 weeks off work nowe.
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11-12-2020, 13:25
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k
Had confirmation Star will not be included in Disney+ cost it will be a seperate service launching Febrauary 2021.
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I'm not sure what that is what this says though. It's not the clearest.
https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the...-350m-by-2024/
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Star will launch in Europe and several other international markets on February 23, 2021 as a fully integrated part of Disney+, with its own branded tile and a new collection of renowned general entertainment series, movies, documentaries and more that will double the content catalog available to Disney+ subscribers
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In Europe, the service will be priced at €8.99 per month or €89.99 per year, with a similar pricing adjustment in the other Star launch markets, including Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.
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For me that says it is part of Disney+ but that a price rise comes at the same time. Not that there are two subscriptions?
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11-12-2020, 14:35
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
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It’s not entirely clear with the U.K for some reason.
On one hand we are getting the price rise to 7.99 but the presentation didn’t specify the U.K and the presentation slides show pictures of the map of ‘Continental Europe’ only.
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I suspect the fact that BBC have the FX deal for some years and Sky having the pay tv window for 20th Century may prevent Star (assuming it launches) having a strong portfolio at launch.
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11-12-2020, 14:55
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein
It’s not entirely clear with the U.K for some reason.
On one hand we are getting the price rise to 7.99 but the presentation didn’t specify the U.K and the presentation slides show pictures of the map of ‘Continental Europe’ only.
https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app...des-121020.pdf -
I suspect the fact that BBC have the FX deal for some years and Sky having the pay tv window for 20th Century may prevent Star (assuming it launches) having a strong portfolio at launch.
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They're waiting on the trade deal between the EU & UK. 
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11-12-2020, 15:13
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
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Star looks to be a bit like Hulu ie more adult-oriented content. In the US, I believe they're bundled together so having Star as part of Disney + in Europe makes sense and justifies the price rise.
As Disney co-owns Hulu with Comcast (will be 100% Disney owned in a few years) I suspect that it is chosing to role out this type of content under the Star brand instead of Hulu. I can understand if Comcast didn't want to invest in a service which competed with Sky and Peacock if it has a deal to sell its shares in Hulu.
(Spelling of Hulu corrected per Phunkenstein)
Last edited by 1andrew1; 11-12-2020 at 15:31.
Reason: spelling
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11-12-2020, 15:19
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Star looks to be a bit like Hayu ie more adult-oriented content. In the US, I believe they're bundled together so having Star as part of Disney + in Europe makes sense and justifies the price rise.
As Disney co-owns Hayu with Comcast (will be 100% Disney owned in a few years) I suspect that it is chosing to role out this type of content under the Star brand instead of Hayu. I can understand if Comcast didn't want to invest in a service which competed with Sky and Peacock if it has a deal to sell its shares in Hayu.
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Hulu you mean!
Issue with Hulu is that while Disney have operational control, Comcast have their third of the business as you mention.
The deal they signed essentially guarantees Comcast a certain amount (at least 5.8 Billion or the fair market value if above it) and either party can force the other to sell/buy in 2024 or thereabouts. Comcast would more than likely be ok for Hulu to roll out internationally as it they get the benefit of any increase in worth - launching Star on the other hand alleviates that issue as its essentially growing a Disney owned business already so the Star expansion is very much strategic and when Hulu is fully assumed by Disney, they would then have the freedom to rebrand and align the services more.
Last edited by Phunkenstein; 11-12-2020 at 15:34.
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11-12-2020, 15:33
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
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Could be Ben the £2 price rise is to cover Star but as far as we're aware Star will be a seperate service.
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