Changes on the High Street

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

How do you determine between those who choose not to wear a mask because <insert tinfoil reason here> and those who genuinely can't wear a mask ?

To the best of my knowledge. You can legally ask someone if they have a condition which prevents them from wearing a mask BUT you can't ask them specifically what condition that is.

For you to blanketly declare those who can't/wont wear a mask should 'stay home' is ridiculous

I asked at the Apple Store last time I was in because they were being very diligent asking people if they'd had symptoms, checking temperatures and also checking mask types (they weren't allowing buff-type bandana masks and made my son swap his for a disposable one they gave him).

The shop assistant said about 1 in 10 customers presented at the door without a mask. All of these were asked if there was a reason why they weren't wearing one and whether they would wear one in store. According to him, 9 out of 10 of those challenged in that way would then put on a mask.

It's not very scientific, but that indicates perhaps 1 in a hundred Apple Store customers can't wear one (perhaps also 'won't', but the security staff on the door were being pretty firm, so I imagine most people who don't want to wear a mask but do want to buy an iPhone suddenly find a reason to be pragmatic). That figure is comfortably less than the proportion of the Great Unwashed I witnessed shuffling around the shopping centre outside anyway.

[Carth]

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[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris

I asked at the Apple Store last time I was in because they were being very diligent asking people if they'd had symptoms, checking temperatures and also checking mask types (they weren't allowing buff-type bandana masks and made my son swap his for a disposable one they gave him).

The shop assistant said about 1 in 10 customers presented at the door without a mask. All of these were asked if there was a reason why they weren't wearing one and whether they would wear one in store. According to him, 9 out of 10 of those challenged in that way would then put on a mask.

It's not very scientific, but that indicates perhaps 1 in a hundred Apple Store customers can't wear one (perhaps also 'won't', but the security staff on the door were being pretty firm, so I imagine most people who don't want to wear a mask but do want to buy an iPhone suddenly find a reason to be pragmatic). That figure is comfortably less than the proportion of the Great Unwashed I witnessed shuffling around the shopping centre outside anyway.

I think i get your point, which is if more security staff at stores were to act firmer, then more people would wear masks voluntarily (please correct me If I'm misunderstanding)

The issue i take with the above is security staff being firm part.

If person A walks in and is challenged and is asked 'is there a reason why you can wear a mask?' All person A has to do is say, 'yes, there is' nothing further needs to be said, nor can be asked about why.

If security were then to refuse entry and a Person A has a legitimate medical reason as to why they don't have to wear a mask Apple would find itself in a whole lot of trouble legally.

Businesses are in a difficult situation attempting to deal with these situations. One wrong move against the wrong person and it will be negative publicity and the pitchfork wielding hordes demanding 'Sun justice'

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I think i get your point, which is if more security staff at stores were to act firmer, then more people would wear masks voluntarily (please correct me If I'm misunderstanding)

The issue i take with the above is security staff being firm part.

If person A walks in and is challenged and is asked 'is there a reason why you can wear a mask?' All person A has to do is say, 'yes, there is' nothing further needs to be said, nor can be asked about why.

If security were then to refuse entry and a Person A has a legitimate medical reason as to why they don't have to wear a mask Apple would find itself in a whole lot of trouble legally.

Businesses are in a difficult situation attempting to deal with these situations. One wrong move against the wrong person and it will be negative publicity and the pitchfork wielding hordes demanding 'Sun justice'

Yes, you got my point

The Apple store guy was trying to tell me that the vast majority of people who aren’t wearing a mask will do so if asked, particularly if the question challenges them to consider whether they have a valid reason (and they only have to think about that for themselves, they’re not being asked to state their reasons). There are those who forget, and there are those who want to rage against the machine. It appears that almost all of them want an iPhone more than they want to prove a point.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Paul

You can stand by it all you want, but its not a requirement, no should it be.

You statement clearly shows you have little clue about people who are exempt.

Isn't it is up to the establishment if it's a requirement or not

Originally Posted by Paul

Again, you can keep saying it all you want, its not a requirement, or necessary.
There is no reason for anyone to stay at home simply because they are exempt from wearing a mask.

There is little practical reason to wear one outside at all.

Plus, if they work, then if you are wearing one, it doesnt matter (to you) what anyone else does.
Unless of course you think masks dont actually work, in which case why bother wearing them at all.

I'm sure everyone knows your view, but dont expect everyone to agree with you.

I was always under the impression masks protected people from you more than they protected you from them.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from Sky News:

Sir Philip Green's retail empire is facing collapse within days, putting 15,000 jobs at risk and bringing the curtain down on the high street career of one of Britain's most controversial businessmen.

Sky News has learnt that Arcadia Group - which owns TopShop, Burton and Dorothy Perkins - is preparing to appoint administrators from Deloitte as soon as next week.

One retail industry figure said Arcadia's collapse had become inevitable after talks with a number of lenders about an emergency £30m loan ended without success.

I used to buy printed shirts in Top Shop but I haven't been there for a long time.

[Carth]

The way things are going, we'll soon be having to make our own clothes . . probably from the skin of a deer we've poached and cooked because there are no shops

Apparently 'home brew' is seeing a massive increase too, why buy crap beer from supermarkets when you can brew your own in all the spare time you now have

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

The way things are going, we'll soon be having to make our own clothes . . probably from the skin of a deer we've poached and cooked because there are no shops

Apparently 'home brew' is seeing a massive increase too, why buy crap beer from supermarkets when you can brew your own in all the spare time you now have

I'm a bit ahead of the curve on this one i already brew my own beer, and as for poaching i own 6 guns

Five fishing rods and two catapults.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I'm a bit ahead of the curve on this one i already brew my own beer, and as for poaching i own 6 guns

Five fishing rods and two catapults.

All legal of course...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

All legal of course...

The ownership is all legal.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I'm a bit ahead of the curve on this one i already brew my own beer, and as for poaching i own 6 guns

Five fishing rods and two catapults.

No matter how you dress it up, having part ownership in a Tin Can Alley and a Hook A Duck stall in Cleethorpes amusement arcade doesn't equate to owning guns & fishing rods

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

No matter how you dress it up, having part ownership in a Tin Can Alley and a Hook A Duck stall in Cleethorpes amusement arcade doesn't equate to owning guns & fishing rods

Don't forget my gambling empire or as i like to call them fruit machines at my wizard of wads emporium

Originally Posted by papa smurf

my wizard of wads emporium

Don’t you need a ... ahem ... special licence for that sort of thing?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Carth

The way things are going, we'll soon be having to make our own clothes . . probably from the skin of a deer we've poached and cooked because there are no shops

[Sephiroth]

Jeez - John Lewis have gone mad!¬

https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog...es-in-england/

From December 2, customers can visit johnlewis.com and pre-book a slot to visit their local shop up to 14 days in advance of their visit.

They will receive a confirmation email once they have booked and will be asked to show this on arrival at their chosen shop.

For those visiting a John Lewis shop, if there are queues outside, customers may be added to a virtual queue.

A politician couldn't have been more stupid. Well ...