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Hom3r · 23-11-2020, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Carth

Had an important looking letter today from the NHS. . . they're now almost begging me to have a flu jab.

Included in the envelope was a second letter, this one informing me that sending letters out was costing the NHS money it could use elsewhere . . .

well excuse me, but if you'd taken notice the first, second, and third, even the fourth time I said I didn't want one, you wouldn't be wasting your bloody money.

I suspect Flu is transmitted in a very similar way to Covid-19 . . and I'm already taking rather stringent measures to prevent that, thanks.

I had the flu jab along with my dad the other week, I wonder as we live in the same house, and he is offered the COVID-19 jab should I be also offereed it

pip08456 · 23-11-2020, 20:00

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

I had the flu jab along with my dad the other week, I wonder as we live in the same house, and he is offered the COVID-19 jab should I be also offereed it

I doubt it. I should imagine it will be dispensed in order of priority.

denphone · 23-11-2020, 20:02

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Originally Posted by pip08456

I doubt it. I should imagine it will be dispensed in order of priority.

It will be given what was announced last week.

**Hugh** · 23-11-2020, 20:11

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Tis the season to be jolly, but also the season to be jolly careful!

**Paul** · 23-11-2020, 21:44

Yeah, I saw the new tiers, T3 is just lockdown under another name.

denphone · 23-11-2020, 22:08

Overseas quarantine for England to be slashed to 5 days from 14 days.

https://www.ft.com/content/5953cafb-...5-397744d5b9bb

1andrew1 · 23-11-2020, 22:45

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Originally Posted by denphone

Overseas quarantine for England to be slashed to 5 days from 14 days.

https://www.ft.com/content/5953cafb-...5-397744d5b9bb

Won't affect me personally but that's a positive development.

1andrew1 · 24-11-2020, 00:45

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Oxford Covid vaccine hit 90% success rate thanks to dosing error

The Oxford University and AstraZeneca vaccine trials reached 90% efficacy by accident thanks to the “serendipity” of an error that led to some participants receiving half doses, it has emerged.

On Monday scientists revealed that the Oxford vaccine had an overall efficacy of 70%, but could be around 90% effective when administered as a half dose followed by a full dose a month later.

“The reason we had the half dose is serendipity,” said Mene Pangalos, executive vice-president of biopharmaceuticals research and development at AstraZeneca.

When university researchers were distributing the vaccine at the end of April, around the start of Oxford and AstraZeneca’s partnership, they noticed expected side effects such as fatigue, headaches or arm aches were milder than expected.“So we went back and checked … and we found out that they had underpredicted the dose of the vaccine by half,” said Pangalos.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...o-dosing-error

pip08456 · 24-11-2020, 03:13

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...o-dosing-error

There are many scientific breakthroughs "by accident" no reason for this to be different nor unwelcomed.

jfman · 24-11-2020, 09:06

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Originally Posted by pip08456

There are many scientific breakthroughs "by accident" no reason for this to be different nor unwelcomed.

The anti vax brigade will be all over that. Such a basic error what else might not be right about it?

**Maggy** · 24-11-2020, 09:16

Good job there was no one to tell Jenner he was doing it all wrong when he discovered how to vaccinate against smallpox.

**Chris** · 24-11-2020, 09:20

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Originally Posted by Maggy

Good job there was no one to tell Jenner he was doing it all wrong when he discovered how to vaccinate against smallpox.

And that Alexander Fleming, what was he doing running filthy experiments. You’re not injecting any of that mouldy crap into me.

BenMcr · 24-11-2020, 10:14

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Originally Posted by Maggy

Good job there was no one to tell Jenner he was doing it all wrong when he discovered how to vaccinate against smallpox.

Unfortunately....

https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/obj...ry-vaccination

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OPPOSITION TO VACCINATION
In the 1800s, some people objected to compulsory vaccination because they felt it violated their personal liberty. The Vaccination Act of 1853 introduced mandatory smallpox vaccination in England and Wales for infants up to three months old. The Act was met with opposition from people who demanded the right to control their bodies and those of their children.

The Anti Vaccination League and the Anti-Compulsory Vaccination League formed in response to the mandatory laws, and numerous anti-vaccination journals sprang up. After a visit to New York, in 1879, by prominent British anti-vaccinationist William Tebb, The Anti-Vaccination Society of America was founded.

**Maggy** · 24-11-2020, 10:18

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Unfortunately....

https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/obj...ry-vaccination

Pity there's no actual antidote against stupidity.

tweetiepooh · 24-11-2020, 10:57

Unfortunately if you can imagine vaccines being abused it's certain that someone in power somewhere has also imagined it and possibly even worked out plans to implement it. Is that the actual case in the UK any other nation? Probably not but with what we know now of genetics and so on it would make a rather nasty and targeted weapon.

That said the objections listed above are more an issue of personal vs corporate responsibility and that is likely true for most nations now. There is the ethical issue of vaccines produced/developed with foetal cell lines that may be of major concern for some.