11-11-2020, 07:55
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Remoaner
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Re: U.S Election 2020
He has released a video saying he doesn't recant at the same time as signing an affidavit doing so. It appears he wants to keep saying it so long as there is no legal document or testimony to that fact.
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11-11-2020, 08:09
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#1367
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Re: U.S Election 2020
Given that the Trump strategy is all about narrative rather than hard evidence I’d say this is probably what his lawyers were hoping for. They’re pursuing the strategy of repeating the lie often enough that people start assuming it’s true.
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11-11-2020, 09:26
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Given that the Trump strategy is all about narrative rather than hard evidence I’d say this is probably what his lawyers were hoping for. They’re pursuing the strategy of repeating the lie often enough that people start assuming it’s true.
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And quite a few die hard Trump supporters will believe there's no smoke without fire, some will even donate and continue to genuinely the Democrats are corrupt and have stolen the election from them.
Their flawed cause is aided by the US voting system which is not geared up for operating in an environment of social media and 24 hour news channels.
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11-11-2020, 10:04
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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if your not stupid enough to get shot at gassed and bombed your not worthy 
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That’s a helluva comment on the day before Remembrance Day.
"Lest we forget"?
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11-11-2020, 11:11
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#1370
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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That’s a helluva comment on the day before Remembrance Day.
"Lest we forget"?
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Your virtue signalling bears no relation to the meaning behind Papa's observation.
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11-11-2020, 11:30
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Your virtue signalling bears no relation to the meaning behind Papa's observation.
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Given that Hugh was manning the Fulda Gap before many of us here were born, I think it's unlikely his thoughts on remembrance day have anything to do with virtue signalling.
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11-11-2020, 11:34
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Given that Hugh was manning the Fulda Gap before many of us here were born, I think it's unlikely his thoughts on remembrance day have anything to do with virtue signalling.
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For what the Fulda Gap has to do with Papa's observations and the US elections your virtue signalling of Hugh's virtue signalling is mildly amusing.
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11-11-2020, 12:17
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Re: U.S Election 2020
Is 'virtue signalling' the same as flicking a V behind someone's back?
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11-11-2020, 12:21
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Is 'virtue signalling' the same as flicking a V behind someone's back? 
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Virtue signalling is a pejorative neologism for the conspicuous and disingenuous expression of moral values with the intent to enhance one's own image.
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11-11-2020, 12:27
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Virtue signalling is a pejorative neologism for the conspicuous and disingenuous expression of moral values with the intent to enhance one's own image.
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oh
I'll just stick with the V thanks
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11-11-2020, 12:41
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Your virtue signalling bears no relation to the meaning behind Papa's observation.
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You're confusing virtue-signalling with empathy for what servicemen have to endure from someone who's served his country. On Remembrance Day of all days.
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11-11-2020, 13:28
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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You're confusing virtue-signalling with empathy for what servicemen have to endure from someone who's served his country. On Remembrance Day of all days.
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Nothing whatsoever to do with Papa's observations. What's the matter with you?
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11-11-2020, 13:39
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Nothing whatsoever to do with Papa's observations. What's the matter with you?
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"not stupid enough to get shot at gassed and bombed" was quite obviously derogatory towards all service personnel, everywhere, who are "stupid" for signing up for a service where being "shot at, gassed and bombed" is an occupational hazard. It's derogatory any day of the year but at the one time of year we're meant to be pausing and reflecting on what this means for service personnel and those they leave behind when they are KIA, it is particularly insensitive.
I've no need to ask what's the matter with you; you clearly have serious issues with empathy, or rather lack thereof.
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11-11-2020, 13:50
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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"not stupid enough to get shot at gassed and bombed" was quite obviously derogatory towards all service personnel, everywhere, who are "stupid" for signing up for a service where being "shot at, gassed and bombed" is an occupational hazard. It's derogatory any day of the year but at the one time of year we're meant to be pausing and reflecting on what this means for service personnel and those they leave behind when they are KIA, it is particularly insensitive.
I've no need to ask what's the matter with you; you clearly have serious issues with empathy, or rather lack thereof.
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The hypocrisy of the attack on Papa is that had he made the observation a week or so later, the virtue signalling would not have occurred.
And since Papa's observation was irrelevant to the Remembrance Day context none of this virtue signalling should have occurred.
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11-11-2020, 15:06
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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The hypocrisy of the attack on Papa is that had he made the observation a week or so later, the virtue signalling would not have occurred.
And since Papa's observation was irrelevant to the Remembrance Day context none of this virtue signalling should have occurred.
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I would have found it offensive at any time, as it states that you have to be stupid to serve your country - if you believe that is "virtue signalling", that is your right (one of the rights that I and others served to preserve  ).
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