U.S Election 2020

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I suspect Iain Duncan Smith who infamously Tweeted "We don't need lectures on the Northern Ireland peace deal from Mr Biden." will be locked in the broom cupboard for a while.

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Papa, I urge you to move on and accept that Trump has won. Your predictions for the election have let you down and I urge you to avoid further disappoint.

There is no disappointment. Just wish Democrat’s knew how to win elections without cheating. But this. Ha, totally amusing this shit coming from you. Did you accept Brexit?

Do not take the piss by telling folk they have to accept these election results, Andrew when you and others totally failed to accept the Democratic result of Brexit/Trump!

I’m not going to accept or recognise Biden as president, I mean I think he is an appalling candidate anyway. Harris will be President in a few years anyway.

Where Trump failed on the Virus, Biden won’t be able to tackle Covid either. I mean hundreds of thousands poured on to the streets to celebrate his questionable victory, did Covid-19 disappear overnight?

Hypocrites, Biden is responsible for the worst crime bill that caused more incarcerations of blacks and he stood eulogising prominent race segregationists.

Biden is now starting to add quite a bit of clearance from the recount threshold in Pennsylvania. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...nsylvania.html

He has also increased his lead in Georgia but that'll still go to a recount along with Wisconsin.

Arizona still not declared and likely to be close.

In the meantime, Biden's transition website is up and they're likely to start making appointments soon. Be interesting to see who he appoints. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...choices-433431

Sanders is an outside shot to be in there. Buttigieg will likely be as well as he was one of the most prolific and effective surrogates for Biden during the campaign and will likely be rewarded with a platform for a future nomination bid.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Did you accept Brexit?

Yes I did. Doesn't mean that I suddenly think it's a good idea or that BoJo's a good negotiator.
Trump can still win in 2024. The US likes old presidents at the moment so there's still hope. Just not for 2020. That train's already left the station.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

What's in it for Pence, being President for a month? I think he has greater ambitions than that, so does donny actually and doing this will kill any political ambitions eituer of them have, just like it did for Gerald Ford

Also a lot of the investigations to Trump are at state level which the President cannot pardon apparently.

[Itshim]

Biden will be bad for the us in the long term .that's if he lives that long . He will talk the talk but the gop supporters will never get behind him,no matter what spin the media put on it. Trump is a idiot but great for the economy. covid did for him!

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

There is no disappointment. Just wish Democrat’s knew how to win elections without cheating. But this. Ha, totally amusing this shit coming from you. Did you accept Brexit?

Do not take the piss by telling folk they have to accept these election results, Andrew when you and others totally failed to accept the Democratic result of Brexit/Trump!

I’m not going to accept or recognise Biden as president, I mean I think he is an appalling candidate anyway. Harris will be President in a few years anyway.

Where Trump failed on the Virus, Biden won’t be able to tackle Covid either. I mean hundreds of thousands poured on to the streets to celebrate his questionable victory, did Covid-19 disappear overnight?

Hypocrites, Biden is responsible for the worst crime bill that caused more incarcerations of blacks and he stood eulogising prominent race segregationists.

I'm sure its going to be a blow to Joe that you won't recognise him as President Mick

Must say it is rotten luck that anyone that runs against him turns out to be a corrupt cheat. Still he seems happier and less angry on the golf course so alls well that ends well.

Statement by President George W. Bush

https://www.bushcenter.org/about-the...oe-biden.htmll

DALLAS, TEXAS — I just talked to the President-elect of the United States, Joe Biden. I extended my warm congratulations and thanked him for the patriotic message he delivered last night. I also called Kamala Harris to congratulate her on her historic election to the vice presidency. Though we have political differences, I know Joe Biden to be a good man, who has won his opportunity to lead and unify our country. The President-elect reiterated that while he ran as a Democrat, he will govern for all Americans. I offered him the same thing I offered Presidents Trump and Obama: my prayers for his success, and my pledge to help in any way I can.

I want to congratulate President Trump and his supporters on a hard-fought campaign. He earned the votes of more than 70 million Americans – an extraordinary political achievement. They have spoken, and their voices will continue to be heard through elected Republicans at every level of government.

The fact that so many of our fellow citizens participated in this election is a positive sign of the health of our democracy and a reminder to the world of its strength. No matter how you voted, your vote counted. President Trump has the right to request recounts and pursue legal challenges, and any unresolved issues will be properly adjudicated. The American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair, its integrity will be upheld, and its outcome is clear.

The challenges that face our country will demand the best of President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Harris – and the best of us all. We must come together for the sake of our families and neighbors, and for our nation and its future. There is no problem that will not yield to the gathered will of a free people. Laura and I pray for our leaders and their families. We ask for God's continued blessings on our country. And we urge all Americans to join us in wishing our next President and Vice President well as they prepare to take up their important duties.

George Bush has phoned to congratulate Biden and Harris and released a statement as well:

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/stat...89683506327554

Significant as it's the most high-profile Republican to recognise his victory.

Originally Posted by Damien

George Bush has phoned to congratulate Biden and Harris and released a statement as well:

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/stat...89683506327554

Significant as it's the most high-profile Republican to recognise his victory.

Amazing ... now Trump has made even G W Bush look like a world statesman.

The next four years of American politics is probably going to be pretty, beautifully, boring.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Itshim

covid did for him!

Being impeached, declaring there were “very fine people on both sides” after a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville and cosying up to Kim Jong Un didn't help matters either!

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Being impeached, declaring there were “very fine people on both sides” after a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville and cosying up to Kim Jong Un didn't help matters either!

Does not help when Democrats cheat either does it, when they invite a cemetery of dead people to vote for them. It’s even remarkable that people who’ve been dead over a decade, managed to register to vote and pick Biden.

But more bullshit from you I see, Trump was acquitted in the Senate. Trump has disavowed white supremacy groups. Biden invented a crime bill that caused more blacks to be incarcerated, your rage is where?

Clinton also went to North Korea (After his presidency), your rage is where?

It’s TDS all over again. Pathetic!

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Does not help when Democrats cheat either does it, when they invite a cemetery of dead people to vote for them. It’s even remarkable that people who’ve been dead over a decade, managed to register to vote and pick Biden.

But more bullshit from you I see, Trump was acquitted in the Senate. Trump has disavowed white supremacy groups. Biden invented a crime bill that caused more blacks to be incarcerated, your rage is where?

Clinton also went to North Korea (After his presidency), your rage is where?

It’s TDS all over again. Pathetic!

Do you write Trump's tweets for him Mick?

Originally Posted by Mick

Does not help when Democrats cheat either does it, when they invite a cemetery of dead people to vote for them. It’s even remarkable that people who’ve been dead over a decade, managed to register to vote and pick Biden.

But more bullshit from you I see, Trump was acquitted in the Senate. Trump has disavowed white supremacy groups. Biden invented a crime bill that caused more blacks to be incarcerated, your rage is where?

Clinton also went to North Korea (After his presidency), your rage is where?

It’s TDS all over again. Pathetic!

Can I ask where this was, please?

If you mean this, it was found not to be true...

On Friday, a viral claim that Pennsylvania had 21,000 dead people on its voter rolls spread across the internet. In some versions of the rumor, those deceased people had voted for the Democratic presidential candidate, Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Breitbart News, the right-wing publication, wrote an article about it. Others then cited it as evidence that Democrats were trying to steal the election.

Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer, shared the article on Twitter, collecting 74,800 likes and shares. Diamond and Silk, the popular pro-Trump social media duo, posted about the rumor on Facebook. And Representative Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican, tweeted: “The dead vote appears to have swung overwhelmingly for Joe Biden.”

Altogether, Facebook posts about the rumor reached up to 11.3 million people, according to an analysis by The New York Times.

The problem: It wasn’t true that 21,000 dead people had voted in Pennsylvania.

The claim stemmed from a lawsuit that was amended on Thursday, an action that fueled the rumor’s spread on Friday. The conservative Public Interest Legal Foundation had filed the lawsuit against Pennsylvania’s secretary of state, Kathy Boockvar, on Oct. 15 in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania.

The suit accuses Ms. Boockvar, a Democrat, of improperly including 21,206 supposedly deceased Pennsylvanians on voter rolls. The group asked for an injunction to stop the dead people from voting in the election.

On Oct. 20, the court’s chief judge, John E. Jones III, who has the case, said he was doubtful of the suit. He noted in a ruling that the Public Interest Legal Foundation was asking the court to accept its findings that dead people were on the voter rolls but said, “We cannot and will not take plaintiff’s word for it — in an election where every vote matters, we will not disenfranchise potentially eligible voters based solely upon the allegations of a private foundation.”

Logan Churchwell, a spokesman for the legal foundation, said in an email on Friday it had evidence from the 2016 and 2018 elections for its suit. “Evidence and exhibits are filed under seal with the court,” he said. “The lawsuit is not a rumor, and the methodology is explained in the amended complaint, filed yesterday.”

A spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania attorney general’s office said: “The court found no deficiency in how Pennsylvania maintains its voter rolls. There is currently no proof provided that any deceased person has voted in the 2020 election.”

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Does not help when Democrats cheat either does it, when they invite a cemetery of dead people to vote for them. It’s even remarkable that people who’ve been dead over a decade, managed to register to vote and pick Biden.

But more bullshit from you I see, Trump was acquitted in the Senate. Trump has disavowed white supremacy groups. Biden invented a crime bill that caused more blacks to be incarcerated, your rage is where?

Clinton also went to North Korea (After his presidency), your rage is where?

It’s TDS all over again. Pathetic!

I'm just saying all those things didn't help Trump. I'm not saying if I agreed with them or if they offended me. Please don't take this commentary too personally.

As to the Democrats - well, they've not lost the Presidency yet, it's early days, but I will be happy to provide my analysis when the do lose it.