Coronavirus

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

As predicted by jfman, another obvious point but worth repeating - this now plays well for Keir Starmer,. Starmer called for an immediate circuit breaker on 13th October. He cannot be deflected with “Captain Hindsight” accusations.

Captain Foresight many are saying...

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by denphone

Captain Foresight many are saying...

Or is it simply a case of Captain Opposite? Foresight would've been predicting it a year or even six months ago.
In April he was advocating the ending of the lockdown, so much for foresight.

Originally Posted by nomadking

Or is it simply a case of Captain Opposite? Foresight would've been predicting it a year or even six months ago.

A year ago?

Really? The first case was 17th November 2019...

https://www.livescience.com/first-ca...rus-found.html [quote]

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

A year ago?

Really? The first case was 17th November 2019...

https://www.livescience.com/first-ca...rus-found.html

Predicting a year into the future would've been a clear example of Foresight. Foresight is related to the future, not the present.
If he had said 6 months ago, that another lockdown WOULD be needed, then again that might've been foresight. Instead talking about the ending of lockdown, doesn't suggest that.

[papa smurf]

[QUOTE=Hugh;36055844]A year ago?

Really? The first case was 17th November 2019...

https://www.livescience.com/first-ca...rus-found.html

And had he predicted it we could call him captain foresk er foresight

Originally Posted by nomadking

Predicting a year into the future would've been a clear example of Foresight. Foresight is related to the future, not the present.
If he had said 6 months ago, that another lockdown WOULD be needed, then again that might've been foresight. Instead talking about the ending of lockdown, doesn't suggest that.

I think you are confusing foresight with fortune telling - are you Nadine Dorries?

Anyhoo, back to vaccine research...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/v...irms-rtlzrz8v5

The head of Britain’s vaccine taskforce is facing calls to resign after disclosing “official sensitive” government documents to a $200-a-head conference in America last week.

Kate Bingham*, a venture capitalist who is married to a Conservative minister, was appointed to the role by Boris Johnson in May despite having no vaccines expertise. She reports directly to him.

Last week Bingham, 55, spent an hour explaining the government’s strategy to a “premier webinar and networking event” for women in private equity hosted by a Massachusetts company.

According to a video of the event, she showed financiers a detailed list of vaccines which the UK government is closely monitoring and could later invest in. Bingham said: “We haven’t necessarily signed contracts with all of them so far. But they’re all in our sights.”

Several of the vaccines are owned or funded by publicly traded companies that those attending the conference could invest in, based on her insight. It is understood that ministers did not sign off her appearance.

So, the Head of the UK's Vaccine Taskforce (who's a Venture Capitalist) tells a Venture Capitalist conference which companies the UK Government may be investing in?

Sounds legit...

*married to a Tory MP. Jesse Norman, 58, who is financial secretary to the Treasury and attended Eton at the same time as Johnson.

[jfman]

When Jacob Rees-Mogg’s firm said it was a once in a generation opportunity for super-normal profits to be extracted from investments I didn’t think even they would have foreseen this kind of corruption.

[nomadking]

If it's cloudy, and X says it's not going to rain, but Y says it is going to rain, is that foresight or just saying the opposite.
When lockdown was in place, he was talking about the ending of lockdown, when it wasn't, he was supposedly talking about introducing a nationwide lockdown. Foresight or just saying the opposite?
His motives aren't for the health of people, but for the continued propping up of businesses.

[jfman]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-covid-one-day

1% positive. Not great evidence for the false positives brigade.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Or is it simply a case of Captain Opposite?

He's agreed with the government on keeping the schools open and has disagreed with the unions on this, so the Captain Opposite description is flawed.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

He's agreed with the government on keeping the schools open and has disagreed with the unions on this, so the Captain Opposite description is flawed.

Doesn't fit in with foresight either.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Doesn't fit in with foresight either.

Doesn't fit in with hindsight either.

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Originally Posted by jfman

When Jacob Rees-Mogg’s firm said it was a once in a generation opportunity for super-normal profits to be extracted from investments I didn’t think even they would have foreseen this kind of corruption.

Well, if you thought it was all get a bit seedy on the contracts front, you could always complain to the Government's Anti-Corruption Champion, John Penrose MP. But then he's married to the head of track and trace Dido Harding so that may not turn out too well.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-covid-one-day

1% positive. Not great evidence for the false positives brigade.

Not a conclusive test.

The scheme has faced opposition from some experts who doubted it made sense as one-off measure, or pointed to the antigen tests used, which are less accurate then the laboratory PCR tests and may thus return more false negatives and false positives.

I wouldn't call a report in The Lancet "the false positives brigade".

The current rate of operational false-positive swab tests in the UK is unknown; preliminary estimates show it could be somewhere between 0·8% and 4·0%.

This rate could translate into a significant proportion of false-positive results daily due to the current low prevalence of the virus in the UK population, adversely affecting the positive predictive value of the test.
Considering that the UK National Health Service employs 1·1 million health-care workers, many of whom have been exposed to COVID-19 at the peak of the first wave, the potential disruption to health and social services due to false positives could be considerable.

[1andrew1]

Prince William coronavirus HORROR - Duke 'struggled to breathe' but kept virus secret
PRINCE WILLIAM was hit 'pretty hard' by the coronavirus but kept it a secret as to not cause alarm across the nation.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...kate-middleton

He need not have worried, I would not have been "alarmed"