U.S Election 2020

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Hope he makes a better job of it than Tony Blair
https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/18/tony-...trip-13440361/

Appreciate it's a bit lengthy, but having read the article in your link, both seem exempt from self-isolation. One rule for the establishment elites like Farage and Blair, another rule for us plebs.

‘He was told to follow the guidance on international conferences which he did; the US Government had cleared the visit because it was for the diplomatic conference at the White House. ‘We believe he followed all UK and US government guidelines as advised. ‘Mr Blair was tested for Covid before departing the UK, on arrival at the White House, when he returned to the UK and has been tested several times since.’

The spokeswoman said all Covid-19 tests had been negative, adding that Mr Blair did not attend any other meetings during his trip. Government guidance states that diplomats and representatives at international conferences are granted ‘privileges and immunities’, meaning they are not required to self-isolate if their work is confirmed as essential.

A Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) spokeswoman said: ‘The FCDO provides travel exemptions to diplomats travelling on business relating to the interests of the UK, representatives of international organisations, and their families and dependents.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/18/tony-...1/?ito=cbshare

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Appreciate it's a bit lengthy, but having read the article in your link, both seem exempt from self-isolation. One rule for the establishment elites like Farage and Blair, another rule for us plebs.


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/18/tony-...1/?ito=cbshare

Words just fail me- i hope the virus knows about this exemption.

This is very scary: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...lection-night/

Pennsylvania has a lot of postal votes and there could be a large discrepancy between votes on the day and the postal votes counted afterwards. So on the night, Trump could be ahead and if this is the deciding state then there is going to be an almighty argument about how long they can count postal votes before shutting it down and declaring a winner. The Supreme Court upheld a decision giving them three days to count them but that can be appealed.

So if Trump is ahead the Republicans could go right to the Supreme Court - which is right leaning - to try and get them to shut down the count ASAP.

Again at the moment, the current evidence is the court will allow votes postmarked before election day to be counted. That's what other states do with postal votes and what we do in the U.K. Flordia usually takes time to fully finish their vote do a few others.

[Mr K]

This is allegedly the 'World's Greatest Democracy' yet they make it incredibly difficult and bureaucratic to vote and try disuade certain sections of society from voting.
Then they struggle to counts any votes that do get cast
and will do anything to avoid counting votes where they don't want them counted. Then it ends up in court that have been politically stuffed with the Govs own supporters.
Sounds like the World's biggest Dictatorship.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

This is allegedly the 'World's Greatest Democracy' yet they make it incredibly difficult and bureaucratic to vote and try disuade certain sections of society from voting.
Then they struggle to counts any votes that do get cast
and will do anything to avoid counting votes where they don't want them counted. Then it ends up in court that have been politically stuffed with the Govs own supporters.
Sounds like the World's biggest Dictatorship.

You're right, on this occasion.

[Pierre]

Worlds greatest democracy in the same way their baseball champions are “world” champions

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Worlds greatest democracy in the same way their baseball champions are “world” champions

Don't forget boxing

U.S Department of Justice official have announced there is an active criminal FBI investigation open on Hunter Biden, son of U.S Presidential Democrat Candidate, Joe Biden, probing money laundering.

A witness interviewed by the FBI as part of a year-long criminal investigation into the overseas business dealings of Hunter Biden said this week that the bureau's agents focused their questions, in part, on the work that the son of the Democratic presidential nominee, former Vice President Joe Biden, performed for a Ukrainian company while his father was handling Ukraine policy for the Obama administration.

In an exclusive interview with Sinclair on Thursday, Tony Bobulinski, a former business partner of Hunter Biden, said he was interviewed for some five hours, by up to six FBI agents at a time, at a bureau office in Washington on October 23. The federal agents, Bobulinski said, listed him as a "material witness" in an ongoing investigation, told him they will require additional questioning, and extracted the data from three cell phones that he made available.

Bobulinski has said the devices contain emails, corporate documents, WhatsApp chats and other digital evidence of his tenure as an executive at SinoHawk, a venture co-founded by Hunter Biden to do business with the Chinese energy giant, CEFC. But Bobulinski's account of his FBI interview suggests the bureau is also pursuing investigative leads that extend beyond sinoHawk's China venture to include Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine.

Mykola Zlochevsky is the founder of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, identified in a recent Senate Homeland Security Committee report entitled "Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption," as a natural gas company that paid the younger Biden approximately $83,000 a month to sit on its board while the elder Biden oversaw U.S. foreign policy toward Ukraine. The impeachment proceedings against President Trump in late 2019 and early this year focused on his requests that the Ukrainian government announce investigations in Hunter Biden's work for Burisma.

https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/w...raine-dealings

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mick

U.S Department of Justice official have announced there is an active criminal FBI investigation open on Hunter Biden, son of U.S Presidential Democrat Candidate, Joe Biden, probing money laundering.



https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/w...raine-dealings

Too late to affect the election, unless if Biden wins and as a sitting president is found guilty of some wrong doing with his sons business dealings.

In any event to late to help Trump.

As much as I would love to see everyone lose their minds if he won again, I feel he’s up against too much this time.

[Sephiroth]

I'm gonna LMFAO whatever the result. The USA is one weird society.

With God on their side, of course.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm gonna LMFAO whatever the result. The USA is one weird society.

With God on their side, of course.

I like the way God is on all their sides, that should stop them and make them think for a moment, if it did they'd probably find all their lives suddenly became a bit easier. For our sakes I'm hoping for donny does it again but I don't he's what's best for Americans or the World though.

White House Press Secretary says Trump has took lead in Arizona according to Realclearpolitics poll. Up by 0.6.

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Federal appeals court says MN (Minnesota) cannot count ballots after Election night. A Potential win for Trump.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

White House Press Secretary says Trump has took lead in Arizona according to Realclearpolitics poll. Up by 0.6.

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Federal appeals court says MN (Minnesota) cannot count ballots after Election night. A Potential win for Trump.

So you don't think peoples votes should be counted?

Originally Posted by Mick

White House Press Secretary says Trump has took lead in Arizona according to Realclearpolitics poll. Up by 0.6.

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Federal appeals court says MN (Minnesota) cannot count ballots after Election night. A Potential win for Trump.

I thought they just had to keep them separate - haven’t seen a ruling on not counting them.

https://patch.com/minnesota/southwes...il-ballot-case

Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon announced Friday that his office will not appeal the decision handed down by federal court this week. An Eighth Circuit panel ruled Thursday evening that election officials must "segregate" Minnesota ballots received after Election Day.

The decision is a victory for local GOP groups, who sought to challenge Minnesota's extended Nov. 10 absentee ballot deadline.

"In consultation with the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, we have decided not to seek a stay of the 8th Circuit decision at the US Supreme Court. We disagree with the court's decision, and there may be cause for litigation later. While Minnesota will comply with the 8th Circuit's ruling to segregate the ballots received after November 3, we need to emphasize that there is no court ruling yet saying those ballots are invalid. We absolutely reserve the right to make every argument after Election Day that protects voters. For now, our focus is to make sure that every Minnesota voter knows to cast their ballot by 8 p.m. on November 3, and that every ballot legally cast is counted."

Originally Posted by Mr K

So you don't think peoples votes should be counted?

Firstly, it's not my judgement. But thanks for promoting me to Federal Judge.

Secondly - Do we normally count ballots received after an election event, say days after?

America has had ample time to cast it's vote especially by mail - there is potential to cheat after 8PM on Election night, by keep counting ballots after the cut off time, there has to be "closure" to the election, otherwise the result cannot be determined for weeks if ballots keep on coming in, days after the election has ended.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

I thought they just had to keep them separate - haven’t seen a ruling on not counting them.

https://patch.com/minnesota/southwes...il-ballot-case

If they have to keep them separate, then they are not being counted towards the official tally.