Coronavirus

[nomadking]

People know only too well not to have 100+ gatherings, yet still they persist.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

People are already confused with 3 tiers, wee Kranky goes 2 better.

It'll all end in tiers [sic]

For all her denials it’s just another tedious piece of Scottish exceptionalism of the sort Nats love and can never resist.

The lowest is “Tier Zero” for heaven’s sake ... which is supposedly less severe than the lowest English tier, which is itself called “medium” risk, and yet somehow not actually reflective of zero risk.

Tiers 1, 2 and 3 broadly equate to the English system of medium, high, v. high, and then at the top she’s added a 4th, which is near total lockdown but schools kept open if possible.

All of which amounts to an attempt to claim she is somehow simultaneously more lenient and caring (zero) while also willing to take tough decisions (4).

Tier zero is meaningless because either there’s a risk or there isn’t. If there’s a risk, and there are restrictions of any kind, then that doesn’t equate to zero. Tier 4 is meaningless because locking any city down that tightly without locking the whole country down makes it pretty much unenforceable, unless the police get extensive powers to stop and question people. Otherwise how do you determine who should be at home and who can be out?

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

People are already confused with 3 tiers, wee Kranky goes 2 better.

It'll all end in tiers [sic]

0-4 rather than 1-5 because 1-3 are broadly similar to England’s tiers. So if you’re in 1-3 it’s similar and if you’re in 0 or 4 then they don’t exist in England anyway

0 - no restrictions
4 - total lockdown

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Hugh

0-4 rather than 1-5 because 1-3 are broadly similar to England’s tiers. So if you’re in 1-3 it’s similar and if you’re in 0 or 4 then they don’t exist in England anyway

0 - no restrictions
4 - total lockdown

Tier 0 - Indoor meetings allowed max 8 people from 3 households (that's a resriction), and 15 people from 5 households can meet outdoors (also a restriction)

Tier 4 - Closer to full lockdown as per UK end of March. Non essential shops to close. Some outdoor meetings still allowed. Schools stay open (not total lockdown).

Originally Posted by Hugh

0-4 rather than 1-5 because 1-3 are broadly similar to England’s tiers. So if you’re in 1-3 it’s similar and if you’re in 0 or 4 then they don’t exist in England anyway

0 - no restrictions
4 - total lockdown

Except that 0 doesn't mean no restrictions and 4 doesn't mean total lockdown. Zero is akin to where we were in August, which was most definitely restricted as anyone who tried to enter a shop or get a table at a restaurant can attest. 4 makes somewhat more sense, except that it isn't the severe circuit breaker it is purported to be if the aspiration is to leave anything open (like schools).

The whole thing would have made more sense if it had been coded low, medium, high, very high, severe, but then that might have been needlessly similar to the English system, which is anathema to Nats and no doubt played its part in the decision making process.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

0-4 rather than 1-5 because 1-3 are broadly similar to England’s tiers. So if you’re in 1-3 it’s similar and if you’re in 0 or 4 then they don’t exist in England anyway

0 - no restrictions
4 - total lockdown

All that mansplaining and you got it wrong

Originally Posted by Chris

Except that 0 doesn't mean no restrictions and 4 doesn't mean total lockdown. Zero is akin to where we were in August, which was most definitely restricted as anyone who tried to enter a shop or get a table at a restaurant can attest. 4 makes somewhat more sense, except that it isn't the severe circuit breaker it is purported to be if the aspiration is to leave anything open (like schools).

The whole thing would have made more sense if it had been coded low, medium, high, very high, severe, but then that might have been needlessly similar to the English system, which is anathema to Nats and no doubt played its part in the decision making process.

Thank you for the clarification - much appreciated.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

All that mansplaining and you got it wrong

You think heero_yuy is a woman?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You think heero_yuy is a woman?

Mansplaining (a blend word of man and the informal form splaining of the gerund explaining) is a pejorative term meaning "(of a man) to comment on or explain something to a woman in a condescending, overconfident, and often inaccurate or oversimplified manner".[1][2][3][4] Author Rebecca Solnit ascribed the phenomenon to a combination of "overconfidence and cluelessness".[5] Lily Rothman, of The Atlantic, defined it as "explaining without regard to the fact that the explainee knows more than the explainer, often done by a man to a woman".[6]

In its original use, mansplaining differed from other forms of condescension in that it was said to be rooted in the assumption that a man is likely to be more knowledgeable than a woman.[7] However, it has come to be used more broadly, often applied when a man takes a condescending tone in an explanation to anyone, regardless of the age or gender of the intended recipients: a "man 'splaining" can be delivered to any audience.[2] In 2010, it was named by the New York Times as one of its "Words of the Year".[8] American Dialect Society nominated Mansplaining as the “most creative” new word in 2012.[9]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Mansplaining (a blend word of man and the informal form splaining of the gerund explaining) is a pejorative term meaning "(of a man) to comment on or explain something to a woman in a condescending, overconfident, and often inaccurate or oversimplified manner".[1][2][3][4] Author Rebecca Solnit ascribed the phenomenon to a combination of "overconfidence and cluelessness".[5] Lily Rothman, of The Atlantic, defined it as "explaining without regard to the fact that the explainee knows more than the explainer, often done by a man to a woman".[6]

In its original use, mansplaining differed from other forms of condescension in that it was said to be rooted in the assumption that a man is likely to be more knowledgeable than a woman.[7] However, it has come to be used more broadly, often applied when a man takes a condescending tone in an explanation to anyone, regardless of the age or gender of the intended recipients: a "man 'splaining" can be delivered to any audience.[2] In 2010, it was named by the New York Times as one of its "Words of the Year".[8] American Dialect Society nominated Mansplaining as the “most creative” new word in 2012.[9]

Slight problem with your highlighted part of the definition - [2] references the Merriam-Webster Dictionary definition, which doesn’t have the highlighted part in it...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/word...nition-history

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mansplaining

The only references in Google to the highlighted part of your post are in Wikipedia (which appears to be incorrect, as the referenced article doesn’t have those words in it), and a couple of articles that reference the Wikipedia article.

Hope this helps...

But in response to what I think was your point, my comment was not intended to be "condescending" - if it was, my apologies to heero.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Slight problem with your highlighted part of the definition - [2] references the Merriam-Webster Dictionary definition, which doesn’t have the highlighted part in it...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/word...nition-history

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mansplaining

The only references in Google to the highlighted part of your post are in Wikipedia (which appears to be incorrect, as the referenced article doesn’t have those words in it), and a couple of articles that reference the Wikipedia article.

Hope this helps...

Thanks for mansplaining that and proving i'm right,enjoy trolling the internet for an irrelevant response, now i have more important things to do.it's beer 0clock.

[Mad Max]

Nicola Sturgeon sparked more chaos and confusion today as she revealed a FIVE tiered coronavirus alert system for Scotland.

The First Minister outlined fresh systems which will come into place after the national circuit-breaker lockdown ends on November 2.

It features five levels of measures - from "level zero" to four - to be applied in different areas of Scotland depending on the spread of the virus.

The top level would be close to a full lockdown like back in March, but the aim is for schools to remain open at all times if possible.

The levels will be reviewed on a weekly basis.

Ms Sturgeon said today the new system "seeks to tackle the direct threat to life as a result of Covid."
People are already confused with 3 tiers, wee Kranky goes 2 better.

It'll all end in tiers [sic]


The Sun is wrong, there was never a national lockdown in Scotland.

[jfman]

Not like the Scottish hacks to create confusion.

Originally Posted by Hugh

0-4 rather than 1-5 because 1-3 are broadly similar to England’s tiers. So if you’re in 1-3 it’s similar and if you’re in 0 or 4 then they don’t exist in England anyway

0 - no restrictions
4 - total lockdown

At least they start from 0. Proper counting system.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Nicola Sturgeon sparked more chaos and confusion today as she revealed a FIVE tiered coronavirus alert system for Scotland.

The First Minister outlined fresh systems which will come into place after the national circuit-breaker lockdown ends on November 2.

It features five levels of measures - from "level zero" to four - to be applied in different areas of Scotland depending on the spread of the virus.

The top level would be close to a full lockdown like back in March, but the aim is for schools to remain open at all times if possible.

The levels will be reviewed on a weekly basis.

Ms Sturgeon said today the new system "seeks to tackle the direct threat to life as a result of Covid."
People are already confused with 3 tiers, wee Kranky goes 2 better.

It'll all end in tiers [sic]


The Sun is wrong, there was never a national lockdown in Scotland.

The only thing that Scotland has in excess compared with England is tiers of restrictions.

Maybe the Scots need to think about that....