22-07-2020, 19:26
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Not a big fan of Starmer, but a big fan of reality-based decision making.
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Really i thought you were ex military 
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22-07-2020, 22:34
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Fan club right on cue with the defense 
Maybe it was an ambulance that was not worth chasing eh |
If you’re going to denigrate someone, at least try to base it on what actually happens - he’s a barrister, not a solicitor, so must adhere to the " cab rank" rule (it’s one of the basic tenets of British Law, to ensure legal representation is equitable).
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In English law (and other countries which adopt the rule), the cab-rank rule is the obligation of a barrister to accept any work in a field in which they profess themselves competent to practise, at a court at which they normally appear, and at their usual rates. The rule derives its name from the tradition by which a Hackney carriage driver at the head of a queue of taxicabs is supposed to take the first passenger requesting a ride.
The cab rank rule is set out at rC29 of the Bar Standards Board Handbook. It states that if you receive instructions from a professional client and the instructions are appropriate taking into account your experience, seniority and/or field of practice, you must (subject to the exceptions in rC30) accept those instructions irrespective of:
- The identity of the client;
- The nature of the case to which the instructions relate;
- Whether the client is paying privately or is publicly funded; and
- Any belief or opinion which you may have formed as to the character, reputation, cause, conduct, guilt or innocence of the client.
Without the cab-rank rule, an unpopular person might not get legal representation; barristers who acted for them might be criticised for doing so.
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But don’t let facts get in the way of your bile...
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Yup - Intelligence Analyst; find the information, validate the information, collate and summarise the information, then present the information with recommendations.
Your jibe just shows your lack of knowledge...
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22-07-2020, 22:36
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
I can't help thinking this should have been a whole new thread..
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08-10-2020, 10:13
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
Labour civil war: McCluskey 'in plot to OUST Starmer' - There's 'union anger!
Hard-left union baron Len McCluskey squeezed Labour's funding after splits with the leadership. Unite cut its affiliation money by 10 per cent in a row over the direction the party is moving in. Mr McCluskey warned Sir Keir Starmer he will hold back more cash if Labour shifts too far to the political centre-ground.
Sources in the union claimed Sir Keir and his leadership team are “just not listening” and warned there is a “lot of anger” among members.
Well that didn't take long did it.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-len-mccluskey
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08-10-2020, 11:50
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Labour civil war: McCluskey 'in plot to OUST Starmer' - There's 'union anger!
Hard-left union baron Len McCluskey squeezed Labour's funding after splits with the leadership. Unite cut its affiliation money by 10 per cent in a row over the direction the party is moving in. Mr McCluskey warned Sir Keir Starmer he will hold back more cash if Labour shifts too far to the political centre-ground.
Sources in the union claimed Sir Keir and his leadership team are “just not listening” and warned there is a “lot of anger” among members.
Well that didn't take long did it.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-len-mccluskey |
With zero policies how does anyone know which way labour are headed? 
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08-10-2020, 12:04
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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With zero policies how does anyone know which way labour are headed? |
I think Sir Keir has learnt from Vote Leave - don't set out your policies in any more detail than you absolutely have to, or they can be torn apart.
For the time being, Labour means Labour.
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08-10-2020, 12:04
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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With zero policies how does anyone know which way labour are headed? |
Those on the inside will be aware. There will have been policy development forums and the like by now. The fact they’re not publishing policies right now is just good politics. The election is years away, and the spotlight isn’t on Labour because of Covid. They have time, they might as well use it.
Starmer isn’t an idiot and it won’t have escaped his attention that Labour’s only truly successful period, elections wise, was when it occupied a broadly centrist position under Blair. He will fight for a return to something like that because he knows he won’t close the gap on the Tories otherwise. Red Len on the other hand has a cushy job for life and can afford to burnish his socialist credentials without much professional risk.
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09-10-2020, 10:48
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
Remainers vow to abandon Labour after party pledges it will not fight to rejoin EU
REMAINERS have vowed to abandon the Labour Party after it pledged not to fight to rejoin the European Union.
Yesterday, Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, set out Labour’s Brexit policy stating the UK will not rejoin the EU under a Labour government.
Looks like sir kier is not for rejoining.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...r-keir-starmer
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09-10-2020, 10:54
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Remainers vow to abandon Labour after party pledges it will not fight to rejoin EU
REMAINERS have vowed to abandon the Labour Party after it pledged not to fight to rejoin the European Union.
Yesterday, Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, set out Labour’s Brexit policy stating the UK will not rejoin the EU under a Labour government.
Looks like sir kier is not for rejoining.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...r-keir-starmer |
2024 is too early to campaign to rejoin, even the Liberal Democrats agree on that.
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09-10-2020, 10:57
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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2024 is too early to campaign to rejoin, even the Liberal Democrats agree on that.
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So rejoiners have nowhere to go politically then,they are wandering in the wilderness.
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09-10-2020, 11:05
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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So rejoiners have nowhere to go politically then,they are wandering in the wilderness.
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Depends on what their other politics are. I don't think people who voted Remain or Leave or solely defined by one referendum.
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09-10-2020, 11:10
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Depends on what their other politics are. I don't think people who voted Remain or Leave or solely defined by one referendum.
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A bit sparse at this time.
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09-10-2020, 11:14
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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So rejoiners have nowhere to go politically then,they are wandering in the wilderness.
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They can go where they belong. To the Lib-Dems.
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09-10-2020, 11:23
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Remainers vow to abandon Labour after party pledges it will not fight to rejoin EU
REMAINERS have vowed to abandon the Labour Party after it pledged not to fight to rejoin the European Union.
Yesterday, Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, set out Labour’s Brexit policy stating the UK will not rejoin the EU under a Labour government.
Looks like sir kier is not for rejoining.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...r-keir-starmer |
Keir Starmer might be a good many things to different people but one thing he is not is politically stupid.
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09-10-2020, 11:33
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Keir Starmer might be a good many things to different people but one thing he is not is politically stupid.
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What kind of stupid would you say he was then?
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