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jfman · 16-09-2020, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Carth

To be fair, "opinion pieces by people who disagree" seems to be a large number of links used as 'proof' posted by many here . . . on both sides of an argument

That’s very true.

Julian · 16-09-2020, 11:45

This guy adder good idea

nomadking · 16-09-2020, 12:16

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Originally Posted by jfman

Opinion pieces by people who disagree does not constitute the model being inaccurate in and of itself.

Sweden did not have a formal lockdown in legislation but there were plenty of behavioural changes that would impact on the model - working from home remains the norm in Sweden, social distancing is encouraged, school years were educated from home.

Would that be a satisfactory outcome for the property developers for 40% of the UK workforce to remain working from home? I suspect not.

But the worst case scenario of the model, also assumed no behavioural changes and no smaller rule changes. Those things happened before full lockdown. It wasn't a case of lockdown being the first action of any sort to take place in the UK.

jfman · 16-09-2020, 12:24

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Originally Posted by nomadking

But the worst case scenario of the model, also assumed no behavioural changes and no smaller rule changes. Those things happened before full lockdown. It wasn't a case of lockdown being the first action of any sort to take place in the UK.

I’m not really sure the point you are making. We’d lost control of the virus, exponential spread was already out there. The behavioural changes instructed by the Government started on 16 March. Boris stood there and said we needed to stop all unnecessary human contact and those who can work from home should.

Lockdown was decided upon by this point it was simply a matter of when.

Carth · 16-09-2020, 12:53

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Originally Posted by jfman

Opinion pieces by people who disagree does not constitute the model being inaccurate in and of itself.

Sweden did not have a formal lockdown in legislation but there were plenty of behavioural changes that would impact on the model - working from home remains the norm in Sweden, social distancing is encouraged, school years were educated from home.

Would that be a satisfactory outcome for the property developers for 40% of the UK workforce to remain working from home? I suspect not.

Au contraire mon ami

If working from home becomes the 'new norm' in many cases, we would see a sudden glut of unused - and unprofitable- office space.

Now look at the prices people are paying for the opportunity to have a roof over their head, and anyone with the cash/contacts/entrepreneurial background to put both of these together may well find themselves with a new and longer lasting bucket of wealth to enjoy

If you can turn a few old pubs/shops/hotels into flats, an office block is childs play

Mad Max · 16-09-2020, 13:31

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Originally Posted by Julian

This guy adder good idea

Very good...

jfman · 16-09-2020, 13:57

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Originally Posted by Carth

Au contraire mon ami

If working from home becomes the 'new norm' in many cases, we would see a sudden glut of unused - and unprofitable- office space.

Now look at the prices people are paying for the opportunity to have a roof over their head, and anyone with the cash/contacts/entrepreneurial background to put both of these together may well find themselves with a new and longer lasting bucket of wealth to enjoy

If you can turn a few old pubs/shops/hotels into flats, an office block is childs play

You didn’t write the new planning laws did you?

Carth · 16-09-2020, 14:02

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Originally Posted by jfman

You didn’t write the new planning laws did you?

As is often pointed out on here, various laws and legislation can be 're-written' if financial gain is in the mix

Pierre · 16-09-2020, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Carth

Au contraire mon ami

If you can turn a few old pubs/shops/hotels into flats, an office block is childs play

Already happening, and more will follow.

https://www.ocealife.com/projects/furness-house/

**Hugh** · 16-09-2020, 16:44

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Already happening, and more will follow.

https://www.ocealife.com/projects/furness-house/

Bloody hell, they’re tiny!

1andrew1 · 16-09-2020, 18:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Bloody hell, they’re tiny!

They're big for SE England!

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Surely not?

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Boris Johnson may be stoking Brexit row to distract from coronavirus failures, EU's Barnier warns

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...?ocid=msedgdhp

Carth · 16-09-2020, 19:23

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Boris Johnson may be stoking Brexit row to distract from coronavirus failures, EU's Barnier warns

I can see a better headline:

EU's Barnier scraping barrel in desperation after losing out to Boris

jfman · 16-09-2020, 19:24

Future Minister for Housing or headline writer for the Daily Telegraph. The world is your Oyster as they say, Carth.

Carth · 16-09-2020, 19:36

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Originally Posted by jfman

Future Minister for Housing or headline writer for the Daily Telegraph. The world is your Oyster as they say, Carth.

Not sure about that, one mans Oyster is another mans Barnacle

1andrew1 · 16-09-2020, 19:56

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Originally Posted by jfman

Future Minister for Housing or headline writer for the Daily Telegraph. The world is your Oyster as they say, Carth.

With all the recent resignations, there's bound to be at least one position in government for you to fill, Carth.

If not, Dido Harding is always greatful for a bit of help on track and trace.