Coronavirus (OLD)

Originally Posted by Chris

My East European boiler service man spent about 20 minutes this morning telling me all about how Covid is a Jewish conspiracy. It’s a bit of a nuisance, I have quite an old wood pellet (biomass) boiler and there are very few people qualified to service it. So I just nodded and smiled and waited for him to go away.

I want to know where all these conspiracy theorists think Jewish people are getting the time from? At some point you think their plate is a bit full wouldn't you?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

You can believe what you want, but I know for a fact people that have done this, and if that's what's happening with a few people I know, then I'm pretty sure it's happening all over.

Anecdotal evidence, Max. Yet despite this the numbers testing positive on a given day are trending up.

If random people were just getting tested, without symptoms, they’d be statistically more likely to test negative.

The reality is the virus is more prevalent in society. This will further increase demand for testing in winter as the second wave takes hold, and other ailments that cause similar symptoms spread.

If we lose control this ends one way. They better sort it, and fast.

Originally Posted by Damien

I want to know where all these conspiracy theorists think Jewish people are getting the time from? At some point you think their plate is a bit full wouldn't you?

Funny, I thought it was the Reptilians, using 5G.

[jfman]

Huawei.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by jfman

Anecdotal evidence, Max. Yet despite this the numbers testing positive on a given day are trending up.

If random people were just getting tested, without symptoms, they’d be statistically more likely to test negative.

The reality is the virus is more prevalent in society. This will further increase demand for testing in winter as the second wave takes hold, and other ailments that cause similar symptoms spread.

If we lose control this ends one way. They better sort it, and fast.

So you're basically saying that I'm lying?

Originally Posted by jfman

Huawei.

Crap, I just installed a Huawei router. The Chinese brain controlling waves must have set him off.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

So you're basically saying that I'm lying?

No, that’s exactly not what anecdotal evidence is. What I’m saying is that because you know someone who has doesn’t mean that’s the norm across the entire country or that the sum total contributes significantly to the demand for tests.

I equally know, via social media, of people who got tests after being in pubs where there were positive tests. When the advice was to wait and see if symptoms materialised. Indeed, a test wouldn’t confirm that they wouldn’t go on to develop the virus anyway. Following the return of schools I know of entire families being sent for tests, on instruction of the school, and against NHS advice.

I’m sure there’s always been a percentage, I’m not convinced that is the reason for the current shortage.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Paul

In my experience, of 3 large companies, over 40 years, no, it wont.

You got that right.

Local council have sent out the latest COVID-19 infection rates in Leeds - 72.7 per 100,000, with 6.2% positive rate (According to criteria published by WHO in May, a positive rate of less than 5% is one indicator that the epidemic is under control in a country).

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Local council have sent out the latest COVID-19 infection rates in Leeds - 72.7 per 100,000, with 6.2% positive rate (According to criteria published by WHO in May, a positive rate of less than 5% is one indicator that the epidemic is under control in a country).

The infection rate as you post is 0.072% of local population..........ooooh.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The infection rate as you post is 0.072% of local population..........ooooh.

Yeah, it's extremely high let's get on with our lives eh, by all means, protect the very vulnerable and the older population, but it's now becoming ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Pierre

The infection rate as you post is 0.072% of local population..........ooooh.

No, it’s the new cases, and they have been doubling each week since three weeks ago...

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

that’s hyperbolics, up there with "subjugation" and "enslavement" (not things you’ve said, but others have).

I lived in West Berlin for 3 years at the height of the Cold War, and saw what a "Stasi state" was - use of terms like this in the article just use emotive hyperbolic statements to inflame passion and cause anger, thus making rational debate about real issues difficult.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54145596

Crime minister Kit Malthouse has encouraged people to report their neighbours for any suspected breaches of the new "rule of six", which came in today.

From little acorns .....

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The infection rate as you post is 0.072% of local population..........ooooh.

It’s only low because of, and increasing despite, the restrictions in place. Open everything up and it goes through the roof, NHS overwhelmed, see Italy in February.

Unless of course we’ve hit herd immunity by accident - but if that was the case the test positivity rate would be falling and R wouldn’t be increasing.

I’m really not sure what the urgency is to test this, be wrong, cause unnecessary deaths and be in a second lockdown.

[tweetiepooh]

Wonder who really is at fault, MP's who request increase in testing and approve budget, civil servants who are tasked to implement it, the companies/units who need to ramp up capacity, the engineers doing the tests. What's the betting someone somewhere is earning nicely from the situation and at each phase "difficulties" will mean slower response or more cost.
Do we really want the government to micromanange each stage and every aspect all the time?

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Reporting groups of 7 or more - our archery club now has added signs to the effect that archery is an organised sport and that we can have bigger groups (with distancing), sad we need to.