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		|  10-09-2020, 15:37 | #5431 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  I'll try and help move this debate forwards. My understanding is that no one on the forum has found any scientists supporting Old Boy's assertion and the OP appears not to have done so yet either. 
However, Julian  did kindly unearth a maths professor in Bristol whose model suggested Britain's infection rate peaked on 18th March which the Daily Mail said threw into question whether Britain's lockdown on 23rd March was necessary.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-lockdown.html |  Thanks for this - Prof Wood’s paper 
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		| suggests that infections were in decline before UK lockdown, and that infections in Sweden started to decline only a short time later. |  Here is the Swedish infection rate  for that time, and after - it appears to increasing...
 
Here is another scientist’s view of Prof Wood’s paper.
https://lbndaily.co.uk/uk-coronaviru...own-necessary/ 
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		|  10-09-2020, 17:07 | #5432 |  
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	I think that with the benefit of hindsight, lock-down bought time, especially for the NHS, while the boffins were able to work on cures/treatments to reduce deaths.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by jfman  It doesn’t. We’d have had more deaths had we not locked down, and could have saved lives by locking down sooner. This is science. You are simply speculating with no basis or evidence whatsoever. |  
 Also had we not locked down, the vulnerable people would have had seriously higher death numbers.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by Carth  were they on the graph shown? |  No
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			In June 2019 the UK consumed £5 millions worth of Tea, Coffee & biscuits. 
 
 
 In June 2020 during lockdown this rose to £19 million.
 
 
 Thats a lot of tea breaks
 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh   |  Oh, look what happened about 3 hrs ago.
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		|  10-09-2020, 21:45 | #5436 |  
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			???? 
I was referring to the time period March to June - as Prof Wood was in his paper.
 
What’s your point?
 
Oh, look what happened about 4 hrs ago.
  
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		|  10-09-2020, 22:31 | #5437 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  ???? 
I was referring to the time period March to June - as Prof Wood was in his paper.
 
What’s your point?
 
Oh, look what happened about 4 hrs ago.
  |  Yeah. That’s annoying, I’m going to play golf there in 4 weeks.  But, whatever, I’ll still be going no matter.
		 
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		|  10-09-2020, 23:59 | #5438 |  
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			Be aware the 14 day isolation is worse than the lockdown in terms of what you're allowed to do.
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		|  11-09-2020, 00:56 | #5439 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  Be aware the 14 day isolation is worse than the lockdown in terms of what you're allowed to do. |  Yeah, I’m sure it will be policed very stringently.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh   |  Looks like Professor Wood is ploughing a lonely furrow.    
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Looks like Professor Wood is ploughing a lonely fallow .   |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  "fallow", eh? |  Oops, thanks, corrected, an over-enthusiastic  spell-checker! A fallow furrow.    
Meanwhile - was pleased to read this.
 
	https://www.theguardian.com/business...razeneca-chiefQuote: 
	
		| AstraZeneca’s coronavirus vaccine could still be available by the end of the year, or early next year, according to the company’s chief executive, Pascal Soriot, despite clinical trials being paused after a volunteer fell ill. 
 AstraZeneca and Oxford University, which are jointly developing the vaccine and testing it on 50,000 to 60,000 people around the world, halted trials on Wednesday to investigate the “potentially unexpected illness” of one participant.
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			After listening to the litany of changes of lockdown in the UK on the BBC I'm completely confused.I'm wondering how many others are.
		 
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		|  11-09-2020, 12:07 | #5444 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy  After listening to the litany of changes of lockdown in the UK on the BBC I'm completely confused.I'm wondering how many others are. |  i don't think it's confusing, just irritating
		 
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			I’m sure a second lockdown would be more irritating.
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