Coronavirus (OLD)

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Kushan

That age group might be pulling in the largest infections, but they're by no means the only ones spreading it. My generalisation isn't directed at a specific age group or demographic, just those that think they "know better", or "don't care about experts" or think wearing a mask is an attack on their human rights or anything like that.

Unfortunately, that group spans plenty of age groups.

Agreed. I was in Aberystwyth recently and the staff in Superdrug didn't even wear masks never mind the customers! And they sell masks too!

[Carth]

I agree that every age group has its share of those who do what they want and sod the rest.

I sometimes wonder if these people are the very same ones that also drive at 40 in a 30 limit while using a mobile phone, steal your car for a 'fun filled' joyride at 3am, or hang around at school gates selling drugs, maybe even rent rooms in a run down 2 bed terrace to 18 migrants.

The I stop thinking, because there's thousands of em

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

I agree that every age group has its share of those who do what they want and sod the rest.

I sometimes wonder if these people are the very same ones that also drive at 40 in a 30 limit while using a mobile phone, steal your car for a 'fun filled' joyride at 3am, or hang around at school gates selling drugs, maybe even rent rooms in a run down 2 bed terrace to 18 migrants.

The I stop thinking, because there's thousands of em

No shit, Sherlock!

[jfman]

See if you were going to design a herd immunity strategy and deploy it on the QT. It’d actually look a lot like this. Not saying that Dominic Cummings is pushing that... not at all.

We’ve encouraged young people back to pubs, schools back in and shortly colleges and universities go back.

[Kushan]

Well it worked for Sweden, right? .....right?!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Kushan

That age group might be pulling in the largest infections, but they're by no means the only ones spreading it. My generalisation isn't directed at a specific age group or demographic, just those that think they "know better", or "don't care about experts" or think wearing a mask is an attack on their human rights or anything like that.

Unfortunately, that group spans plenty of age groups.

Indeed go to a lot of these busy tourist places and people of all ages are ignoring the clear Covid 19 guidelines.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Kushan

Well it worked for Sweden, right? .....right?!

Sweden doesn't seem to have faired any worse than elsewhere in Europe except France.

[jfman]

Sweden had warning signs, along with it’s Scandinavian neighbours, that it didn’t heed. Comparing to Italy (hit first), France, Spain and our inept response isn’t something to be proud of for them.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

Sweden had warning signs, along with it’s Scandinavian neighbours, that it didn’t heed. Comparing to Italy (hit first), France, Spain and our inept response isn’t something to be proud of for them.

Perhaps not but it does show that lockdown made jack shit difference to number of deaths per million of population.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Perhaps not but it does show that lockdown made jack shit difference to number of deaths per million of population.

It doesn’t. We’d have had more deaths had we not locked down, and could have saved lives by locking down sooner. This is science. You are simply speculating with no basis or evidence whatsoever.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

See if you were going to design a herd immunity strategy and deploy it on the QT. It’d actually look a lot like this. Not saying that Dominic Cummings is pushing that... not at all.

We’ve encouraged young people back to pubs, schools back in and shortly colleges and universities go back.

Teenagers have not been socially distancing etc, ever. Certainly not around here.

I don' think they are trying to gain Herd immunity on the QT, but a rise in infections, on the demographic that can in the main shrug of the infection is a natural by product of reopening the country.

And is pretty much in line with what I posted several weeks ago, in so far as, those in vulnerable groups that need to shield, should shield. Those that are other wise young and healthy should just be allowed to go about their business, whilst ensuring they don't endanger anyone they know that is shielding.

The key metric will be seeing how hospital admission and death increase as a percentage of the infection rate. As long as those two key measures don't increase wildly, then no problem.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Sweden doesn't seem to have faired any worse than elsewhere in Europe except France.

Europe is more than just five countries - what about Germany, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Norway etc?

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Europe is more than just five countries - what about Germany, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Norway etc?

were they on the graph shown?

Originally Posted by pip08456

Sweden doesn't seem to have faired any worse than elsewhere in Europe except France.

Except France, Ireland, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Romania, Portugal, Germany, Denmark, Bulgaria, Austria, Hungary, Slovenia, and 14 other European countries - the only countries worse than Sweden are the U.K., Belgium, Spain, and Italy...

Originally Posted by Carth

were they on the graph shown?

No, as it only showed the 5 out of the 6 countries with the worst death rate in Europe, and didn’t show the 25 with lesser death rates.