Coronavirus (OLD)

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it shows the age group that are causing the problems ,never mind track and trace we need round up and lock up

Is it too much to hope they all work from home . . if they work at all?

The problem with too many lockdowns is people will just snap and ignore it at some point.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

Is it too much to hope they all work from home . . if they work at all?

Probably all live with their parents,so they go home and pass on the virus to those who have stuck rigidly to the rules since march because they are classed as vulnerable.

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Originally Posted by Damien

The problem with too many lockdowns is people will just snap and ignore it at some point.

Judging the evidence it seems they are ignoring the rules and advice that are supposed to keep us all safe.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

The problem with too many lockdowns is people will just snap and ignore it at some point.

Especially when lockdown rules are undermined by a government advisor as l would imagine public compliance to lockdown rules since were severely underminded by this incident.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...690-1/fulltext

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

Especially when lockdown rules are undermined by a government advisor as l would imagine public compliance to lockdown rules since were severely underminded by this incident.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...690-1/fulltext

exactly
https://fullfact.org/health/what-did...e-broken-them/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ied-boyfriend/

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

exactly
https://fullfact.org/health/what-did...e-broken-them/

And they are just as culpable as Cummings as obviously like him they could not make a selfless sacrifice for the greater good..

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by denphone

And they are just as culpable as Cummings as obviously like him they could not make a selfless sacrifice for the greater good..

So who did Cummings meet up with? NOBODY.


It's not so much any gatherings, but people that have been making contact with others BEFORE that gathering. This virus doesn't sit around for months, and only reappear at a gathering. There has to be a chain of transmission going on. If a group of people who have been isolating one way or another, get together, there should be little or no risk. The problem comes from somebody who hasn't been isolating, possibly for legitimate reasons, eg essential worker.

[papa smurf]

Coronavirus: Tests 'could be picking up dead virus'

Most people are infectious only for about a week, but could test positive weeks afterwards.

Researchers say this could be leading to an over-estimate of the current scale of the pandemic.

But some experts say it is uncertain how a reliable test can be produced that doesn't risk missing cases.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54000629

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Don't think i could cope with that again.

I am just waiting for the government to finally wake up to the fact that fighting the virus by lockdowns is futile. We cannot carry on like this.

If the scientists are correct and that our later national lockdown made little impact on the virus (in that the peak we reached would have been virtually the same had we not done so), then there will be no second wave here that will have an unacceptable impact on the NHS.

And when will it dawn on people that the reason the number of infections are still going up again has rather something to do with the fact that we are testing more? The number of hospital admissions and the number of deaths recorded both remain very low.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I am just waiting for the government to finally wake up to the fact that fighting the virus by lockdowns is futile. We cannot carry on like this.

If the scientists are correct and that our later national lockdown made little impact on the virus (in that the peak we reached would have been virtually the same had we not done so), then there will be no second wave here that will have an unacceptable impact on the NHS.

And when will it dawn on people that the reason the number of infections are still going up again has rather something to do with the fact that we are testing more? The number of hospital admissions and the number of deaths recorded both remain very low.

Which scientists have said that, please?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Which scientists have said that, please?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-lockdown.html

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

The problem with too many lockdowns is people will just snap and ignore it at some point.

That point being about 8 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-lockdown.html

Thanks, but there’s nothing in that five month old article about

The peak we reached would have been virtually the same had we not done so

[Julian]

THIS article from three months ago suggests a similar theory.

[downquark1]

There's various theories. Not clear to me which one is most likely. The number of deaths seems to be staying low, either because treatments are getting better or because the vulnerable are shielding.