UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[jfman]

Old Boy and economics are distant acquaintances at best. There's years of discussion on streaming services to prove that!

[1andrew1]

The FT has some good examples of the new costly red tape being inflicted on small British manufacturers

Even without new testing, the basic cost of registering each chemical will be about £5,000, with the additional cost of “letters of access” varying from £33,000 for an emollient used in a face cream, for example, to £150,000 for a shea butter used as a base for sunscreen. In one case a letter of access cost nearly £300,000.

“Our EU competitors are licking their lips, and that is deeply frustrating,” Ms Loughran said of the mounting costs. “We’ve spent 30 years growing from nothing, now all these barriers are being forced upon us.

“It is enormously wasteful and uncompetitive for UK companies like us to have to spend time, money and resources to repeat all of these registrations for no additional benefit to anyone.”

...He added that there were widespread concerns in the industry that the cost of UK registration risked making some chemicals commercially non-viable in the UK market, with knock-on effects for supply chains and UK jobs.

https://www.ft.com/content/a1c4a5dc-...e-909d4aaf6162

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Old Boy and economics are distant acquaintances at best. There's years of discussion on streaming services to prove that!

Says the man who believes that we don't need to worry about ruining our economy with constant lockdowns and doesn't acknowledge that small audiences for TV channels will ultimately lead to their closure.

Good luck with these perverse views you hold, jfman. I guess we will see who's right over time. Starting with how well we do with Brexit!

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The FT has some good examples of the new costly red tape being inflicted on small British manufacturers




https://www.ft.com/content/a1c4a5dc-...e-909d4aaf6162

I can't read the whole article as I don't subscribe, but I'm not clear whether any assumptions have been made here or whether the government has confirmed that this will be the process.

It would have been easier simply to transfer existing permissions to the new system, I would have thought.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Says the man who believes that we don't need to worry about ruining our economy with constant lockdowns and doesn't acknowledge that small audiences for TV channels will ultimately lead to their closure.

Good luck with these perverse views you hold, jfman. I guess we will see who's right over time. Starting with how well we do with Brexit!

It’s your flawed view that the economy doesn’t tank either way that is flawed. The question is whether you want to control it or not. However that’s for another thread.

The forum is well versed on your views on streaming from the 6-7 threads you’ve opened over the years and are welcome to use the search facility to see you deny reality over there too.

I can't read the whole article as I don't subscribe, but I'm not clear whether any assumptions have been made here or whether the government has confirmed that this will be the process.

It would have been easier simply to transfer existing permissions to the new system, I would have thought.

That’s the danger of though Old Boy. Anyone can speculate and make judgements in ignorance of material facts. I’ll trust the salt of the earth entrepreneurs quoted by the Financial Times before I trust your ideological speculation.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Good luck with these perverse views you hold, jfman. I guess we will see who's right over time. Starting with how well we do with Brexit!

I'm not sure that's the wisest of starting places Old Boy as the GB-NI border means that JFMan is 1-0 up already! Maybe you should have selected another topic like the rugby.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm not sure that's the wisest of starting places Old Boy as the GB-NI border means that JFMan is 1-0 up already! Maybe you should have selected another topic like the rugby.

Prolly so, but when the Catholics gain an electoral majority in a few years' time (and not so far away), there'll be a border poll and then one Ireland.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

It’s your flawed view that the economy doesn’t tank either way that is flawed. The question is whether you want to control it or not. However that’s for another thread.

That's not what the Chancellor thinks.

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Originally Posted by jfman

That’s the danger of though Old Boy. Anyone can speculate and make judgements in ignorance of material facts. I’ll trust the salt of the earth entrepreneurs quoted by the Financial Times before I trust your ideological speculation.

You certainly seem to take maximum advantage of that, jfman.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That's not what the Chancellor thinks.

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You certainly seem to take maximum advantage of that, jfman.

Where has the Chancellor proposed that the economy will recover quickly? I certainly missed it.

[jfman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53642923

He wasn’t sending sensitive papers to a web based email account, was he? Tut tut if so.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Prolly so, but when the Catholics gain an electoral majority in a few years' time (and not so far away), there'll be a border poll and then one Ireland.

Not sure that’s so cut and dried - I have family over there, and the younger generations are more secular, and have less time for the Prods vs Kaffliks bullshine, and equally are less fervent about a ‘United Ireland’...

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not sure that’s so cut and dried - I have family over there, and the younger generations are more secular, and have less time for the Prods vs Kaffliks bullshine, and equally are less fervent about a ‘United Ireland’...

Indeed, the young generation in N.I. Have the best of both worlds, equally citizens of the R.o.I the EU and the U.K.

If I was Northern Irish I’d vote for the status quo.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Indeed, the young generation in N.I. Have the best of both worlds, equally citizens of the R.o.I the EU and the U.K.

If I was Northern Irish I’d vote for the status quo.

Voting for the status quo is indeed what the majority of Northern Irish did in 2016.
Do the Northern Irish enjoy freedom of movement in the EU? I don't think they automatically do, but if they select a Republic of Ireland passport then would this mean they would?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not sure that’s so cut and dried - I have family over there, and the younger generations are more secular, and have less time for the Prods vs Kaffliks bullshine, and equally are less fervent about a ‘United Ireland’...

That's certainly the impression that I got when i've visited both NI & the ROI.

AFAIK, NI costs more to run than it makes, so from a purely financial point of view, the cash strapped ROI is unlikely to want to take on NI.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

That's certainly the impression that I got when i've visited both NI & the ROI.

AFAIK, NI costs more to run than it makes, so from a purely financial point of view, the cash strapped ROI is unlikely to want to take on NI.

Not sure RoI is any more cash-strapped than the UK but it's not an investment decision, it's a constitutional one which has been made.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

That's certainly the impression that I got when i've visited both NI & the ROI.

AFAIK, NI costs more to run than it makes, so from a purely financial point of view, the cash strapped ROI is unlikely to want to take on NI.

Didn't stop the re-unification of Germany, and the old DDR is still a money pit for the rest of Germany...