Coronavirus (OLD)

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Nobody leaving the UK should reasonably expect to return and not have the possibility of quarantine given in the 7-14 day period of a holiday much can change in that time at your destination.

Considering we ( and most of Europe) were in full on lockdown 120 days ago, the fact that anyone is going on holiday anywhere is amazing and a Surprise quarantine Being sprung on you should be considered an acceptable hazard and you should plan for it.

See I can agree with you.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by peanut

You've got to be a total idiot to book or go on a holiday right now. You can't moan when it goes tits up.

Absolutely but plenty of people have booked holidays and flights that can't be cancelled, many months ago, some last year. They are literaly are faced with a lose it or use it dilemma. Friends going to New York have decided to lose it, friends going to Spain were going to use it; we'll see.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ers-july-2021/

Google employees will work from home until at least summer 2021

Google won’t bring its 200,000 employees back to the office until July 2021, pushing past its January timeline as U.S. coronavirus cases surge and a vaccine remains months away.


That makes parent company, Alphabet, the first major U.S. company to push its comeback into the second half of next year. Google spokesman Jason Post confirmed the decision, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, on Monday.


Chief executive Sundar Pichai announced the new timetable in a companywide email, to “give employees the ability to plan ahead.”


Pichai made the decision last week. He was partly influenced by the differing approaches to school reopening across the country, the Journal reported. The work-from-home option applies to employees at the company’s headquarters in Mountain View, Calif., as well as in other parts of the United States, the United Kingdom and India.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

http://999callfornhs.org.uk/lancet-e...ack/4594892241

This is the most damning trustworthy report I have read that lays bare what was wrong with the UK's approach to CV.



... and there's more in the link.

Lessons to be learned, without doubt.

But the due to actions taken the NHS Was not overwhelmed, everybody that needed a ventilator got one.

I’m not saying they got it right, of course they got many things wrong, but they did get some things right.

So I am not of a mind to see any crucifixions over it, just a plan for future scenarios.

Originally Posted by jfman

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ers-from-spain

Unhelpful input from the Labour Party.

Spain seeks removal of UK Covid-19 restrictions for Canaries and Balearics

[jfman]

Between 1pm and 4pm they’ve rewritten the whole article.

The hyperlink still has the old headline.

... coronavirus-labour-criticises-blunt-tool-quarantine-rules-for-travellers-from-spain

They had quotes and everything!

[mrmistoffelees]

Over 18million Brits go to Spain each year. There's significant dependency on tourism approx 14% of GDP.

If you were cynically minded, you could raise the question is this really to do with reducing the risk of a 2nd wave of infection? Or, is it an attempt to get Spain to apply pressure on the rest of the EU with regards to the ongoing talks?

Not saying it is, just something perhaps worth considering

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Over 18million Brits go to Spain each year. There's significant dependency on tourism approx 14% of GDP.

If you were cynically minded, you could raise the question is this really to do with reducing the risk of a 2nd wave of infection? Or, is it an attempt to get Spain to apply pressure on the rest of the EU with regards to the ongoing talks?

Not saying it is, just something perhaps worth considering

But but but "we need them more than they need us"

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

But but but "we need them more than they need us"

Good one!

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

But but but "we need them more than they need us"

Collectively I believe that the UK need the whole of the EU more than they do us. However as you're well aware Spain isn't the whole of the EU

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Got a link or a source?

Yep of course, and previously posted.

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Originally Posted by jfman

How much if it isn’t true?

Are you saying that the references to market forces and private companies aren't anything but politically bias?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Collectively I believe that the UK need the whole of the EU more than they do us. However as you're well aware Spain isn't the whole of the EU

Not to mention the Fish that several Eu countries rely on.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Collectively I believe that the UK need the whole of the EU more than they do us. However as you're well aware Spain isn't the whole of the EU

No, we don't, but that is for a different thread. And I don't buy your conspiracy theory linking Spain with the EU! My God!!

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Collectively I believe that the UK need the whole of the EU more than they do us. However as you're well aware Spain isn't the whole of the EU

Correct - and they really do need the EU. If they need us (except for our fish), something's wrong there. Expect Gibraltar shenanigans.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Not to mention the Fish that several Eu countries rely on.

Not to mention the EU countries that we need as a market for our fish...

The majority of fish eaten in the UK is imported. Some 83% of the cod consumed in the UK comes from abroad, alongside 58% of its haddock. The UK catch is 5% cod and 7% haddock, while the UK fleet catches a lot of herring, 93% of which is exported, mostly to Norway and the Netherlands.

Overall, the UK imports 70% of the fish it eats and exports 80% of what it catches.