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			Another test for Sir Keir with the claim from Shadow Environment Minister Lloyd Russell-Moyle that JK Rowling was 'using her own sexual assault' to justify her views on transgender issues. 
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			28-06-2020, 07:45
			
			
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			28-06-2020, 19:09
			
			
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			28-06-2020, 19:38
			
			
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				Lets get burning them Harry Potter books that'll learn her   
			
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 Noooooooooooooo! They can't do that now.
 
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				 Quote from Metro news: The Labour Party has agreed to pay ‘substantial damages’ to seven former employees and a reporter over ‘defamatory and false allegations’ following a BBC investigation into anti-Semitism. 
 
A formal apology was also issued by Labour Party leader Sir Keir Starmer. Settlements to both journalist John Ware and the ex-employees are believed to have cost the party between £600,000 and £750,000, with about £200,000 in damages agreed for the eight individuals. 
 
The seven whistleblowers, who worked in the party’s governance and legal unit and were responsible for the investigation of allegations of misconduct, sued Labour after it issued a press release describing them as having ‘personal and political axes to grind’. 
 
The party also accused Mr Ware of conducting a ‘deliberate and malicious misrepresentations designed to mislead the public’ with the July 2019 BBC Panorama investigation entitled: ‘Is Labour Anti-Semitic?’
			
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 Keir Starmer has started the clearout, one wonders how deep this will go?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			22-07-2020, 15:23
			
			
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				Keir Starmer has started the clearout, one wonders how deep this will go? 
			
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 Out of court hush money,labour still leaves a bad taste in the mouth,but he's done what lawyers do settle and keep it quiet.
 
Starmer faces mutiny from Corbyn allies after whistleblower apology
 
An army of supporters of Sir Keir Starmer’s predecessor Jeremy Corbyn have hit out after Labour agreed to pay "substantial damages" and issued an unreserved apology over "defamatory and false allegations" made following a BBC Panorama investigation
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				Out of court hush money,labour still leaves a bad taste in the mouth,but he's done what lawyers do settle and keep it quiet. 
Starmer faces mutiny from Corbyn allies after whistleblower apology
 
An army of supporters of Sir Keir Starmer’s predecessor Jeremy Corbyn have hit out after Labour agreed to pay "substantial damages" and issued an unreserved apology over "defamatory and false allegations" made following a BBC Panorama investigation
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 AKA an out of court settlement that I and many others have sensibly accepted on occasion.
 
Going to court there is a risk, however small, that you could lose.  In addition, the court will want to know that all attempts to settle out of court have been exhausted before resorting to court action as a last resort.  Out of court settlements also avoid legal costs for both parties, with the inherent risk that they may not be able to be claimed back.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			22-07-2020, 18:41
			
			
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				AKA an out of court settlement that I and many others have sensibly accepted on occasion. 
 
Going to court there is a risk, however small, that you could lose.  In addition, the court will want to know that all attempts to settle out of court have been exhausted before resorting to court action as a last resort.  Out of court settlements also avoid legal costs for both parties, with the inherent risk that they may not be able to be claimed back. 
			
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 Jezza thought they could win but starmer just caved in and paid up.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 Starmer is not Corbyn as l thought you would have realised that by now....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Starmer is not Corbyn as l thought you would have realised that by now.... 
			
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				Not much of a lawyer either if he folds before the case gets to court. 
			
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 Or....
 
Enough of a lawyer (you know, being a QC) to know they were going to lose the case, and just rack up larger legal bills.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Enough of a lawyer (you know, being a QC) to know they were going to lose the case, and just rack up larger legal bills. 
			
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				Fan club right on cue with the defense    
			
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 Not a big fan of Starmer, but a big fan of reality-based decision making.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Not a big fan of Starmer, but a big fan of reality-based decision making. 
			
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 gotta agree with Hugh,  either: 
 
apologise, pay some (hush) money and walk away
 
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take it to court, possibly open up a can of worms, run the risk of losing, then  pay double the amount of money for the privilege of having egg on your face   
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				Fan club right on cue with the defense   
Maybe it was an ambulance that was not worth chasing eh  
			
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 No its not a fan club as his job as opposition leader to to scrutinise  the government of the day which is a job he is doing much better then the previous leader..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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