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					Originally Posted by richard s  Now that the Washington Redskins has to change its name will the Kansas City Chiefs have to do the same thing. |  Chief is not necessarily a word confined to American Indians or to African or African Americans. After all my OH was a Chief Petty Officer for part of his navy career later becoming a Charge Chief..   
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			I'd have been sorely tempted to change the name toWashington Indigenous People Native To America 
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					Originally Posted by Carth  I'd have been sorely tempted to change the name toWashington Indigenous People Native To America 
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		| Quote from The Sun: Shocking footage shows a Brazilian police officer stepping on the neck of a black grandmother in chilling echoes of the George Floyd case. 
 Two unnamed military cops now face criminal charges after the disturbing incident in Săo Paulo in May was broadcast on television.
 
 The woman, 51, described as a bar owner and mother-of-five, was dragged to the ground after being handcuffed, it has been reported.
 
 After the footage was broadcast by Globo TV, the two cops allege they had been attacked with an iron rod and were defending themselves – claims the victim, who has two grandkids, denies.
 
 In the clip, one of the officers is seen pointing his gun at two men who appear to be trying to show him that they are not armed.
 
 One of the men even takes off his shirt and turns around to prove that he does not have a weapon.
 
 The footage later cuts to the shocking image of one of the cops holding a woman face down in the road by placing his foot on her neck.
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  Full story, pictures and video on link above. |  you're talking Brazil, I mean the police are nothing but an organised crime group.
 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  you're talking Brazil, I mean the police are nothing but an organised crime group.
 I don't think the world will recoil in horror at anything that happens there.
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  So why has this foreign episode been introduced into this over-surviving thread?
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		|  15-07-2020, 23:39 | #1118 |  
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			Example of the mentality out there.Link 
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		| Nick Cannon has been fired by US media giant ViacomCBS for “hateful speech and antisemitism” following a podcast in which he called white and Jewish people “savages”. |  
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		| “They’re acting out of fear, they’re acting out of low  self-esteem, they’re acting out of a deficiency,” Cannon said. “So,  therefore, the only way that they can act is evil. They have to rob,  steal, rape, kill in order to survive. So then, these people that didn’t  have what we have – and when I say we, I speak of the melanated people –  they had to be savages.” He continued: “I say all that to say, the context in which we  speak, whether it’s Jewish people, white people, Europeans, the  illuminati, they were doing that as survival tactics to stay on the  planet. We never had to do that.”
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		| Cannon also said that black people are “the true Hebrews” and  referenced a number of antisemitic conspiracy theories, including “the  Rothschilds, centralised banking, the 13 families, the bloodlines that  control everything even outside of America”. He additionally condemned  “giving too much power to the ‘they’,” adding: “And then the ‘they’  turns into illuminati, the Zionists, the Rothschilds.” |  Not much Hebrew spoken in West Africa, which is where African-Americans mostly originate.
 
It was recorded last year and only recently broadcast, so no excuses from  recent events.
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		| Quote from The Sun: The sculpture of Black Lives Matter protester Jen Reid, which replaced the statue of Edward Colston was removed this morning. 
 Pictures from the scene in Bristol showed workers at the site at around 5.20am.
 
 Council workers used ropes to secure the statue of Jen Reid before removing it and loading it into a recycling and skip hire lorry.
 
 The statue, by artist Marc Quinn, was put up in the early hours of Wednesday.
 
 Ms Reid, who attended the original BLM march where the statue of slave trader Colston was toppled, said yesterday: "I'd better get a picture before they take it down."
 
 Quinn's lifesize black resin and steel piece of Ms Reid was inspired after seeing a photo of her standing on the empty plinth.
 
 The sculpture, entitled A Surge of Power (Jen Reid), was installed without the knowledge or consent of Bristol City Council.
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		|  16-07-2020, 11:03 | #1120 |  
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  Can't have illegal statues can we? |  So anybody is supposed to be able to put statues of whoever or whatever they like, wherever they like?   |  
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		|  16-07-2020, 11:20 | #1121 |  
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  Can't have illegal statues can we? |  Given the tensions that followed that period of BLM protests, no we can’t.  You don’t solve the injustice of one group imposing its will on another, by turning the tables.  The city mayor is right, there needs to be a conversation involving the whole city followed by an agreed solution.  A publicity stunt by a London based artists doesn’t fit that bill.
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		|  16-07-2020, 14:50 | #1122 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Given the tensions that followed that period of BLM protests, no we can’t.  You don’t solve the injustice of one group imposing its will on another, by turning the tables.  The city mayor is right, there needs to be a conversation involving the whole city followed by an agreed solution.  A publicity stunt by a London based artists doesn’t fit that bill. |  Agreed.
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Given the tensions that followed that period of BLM protests, no we can’t.  You don’t solve the injustice of one group imposing its will on another, by turning the tables.  The city mayor is right, there needs to be a conversation involving the whole city followed by an agreed solution.  A publicity stunt by a London based artists doesn’t fit that bill. |  Yup
		 
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		|  16-07-2020, 15:07 | #1124 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Given the tensions that followed that period of BLM protests, no we can’t.  You don’t solve the injustice of one group imposing its will on another, by turning the tables.  The city mayor is right, there needs to be a conversation involving the whole city followed by an agreed solution.  A publicity stunt by a London based artists doesn’t fit that bill. |   And on which planet does an "agreed solution"not  mean bowing down to BLM et al?
 
Just look at the recent Nick Cannon story. Says all sorts of things about White people in general, but the only problem is apparently anything classed as Anti-Semitic. Nice to know where we stand.
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		| Nick Cannon will continue to host  the US version of the hit TV show The Masked Singer, despite  anti-Semitic comments he made on a podcast. TV Network Fox confirmed he would keep his job after the presenter apologised, saying he was "ashamed" of his remarks
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		| Nick Cannon has been fired by US media giant ViacomCBS for “hateful  speech and antisemitism” following a podcast in which he called white  and Jewish people “savages”. “They’re acting out of fear, they’re acting out of low  self-esteem,  they’re acting out of a deficiency,” Cannon said. “So,  therefore, the  only way that they can act is evil. They have to rob,  steal, rape, kill  in order to survive. So then, these people that didn’t  have what we  have – and when I say we, I speak of the melanated people –  they had to  be savages.”
 He continued: “I say all that to say, the context in which we  speak,  whether it’s Jewish people, white people, Europeans, the  illuminati,  they were doing that as survival tactics to stay on the  planet. We never had to do that.”
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			I'm wondering how long it will be before the first appearance of white people complaining about being pulled over whilst driving, and a black police officer pointing a tazer (or gun) at them.
		 
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