Black Lives Matter

[Julian]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I'd go with olive.

A little skinny for me but each to their own.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If you actually watch the relevant section of the video, you will see that he was not resisting arrest when he was then pinned to the ground for a full 9 minutes. He did not struggle and he told the officers he could not breathe. He was in that position for 9 minutes, for God sake! We all saw it. We heard him pleading for his life, but they did not care. So why are you defending the police? Do you really think that was reasonable behaviour from professional police officers?

You cannot seriously expect to be able to divert attention by referring to the black policeman, who had been with the force for just a couple of weeks and therefore would have been doing as he was ordered to do.

The rest of the civilised world is appalled and disgusted by the behaviour of the police in this case and you should stop trying to defend the indefensible.

I'M DEFENDING THE TRUTH. Whatever way you look at it, the problem WASN'T the neck, it was the CHEST. THAT IS A FACT.

The question STILL remains, what would he have done when he was allowed back up. The video doesn't show too much of him, and the wider viewpoint is when the camera is shifting around a lot. The 3 officers were effectively blocking any full view. You can CLEARLY see he IS moving around, involving his right shoulder.

He RESISTED getting out of his vehicle. He had to be forcibly dragged out. He deliberately dropped to the ground when approaching the patrol car. If he was thrashing around in the patrol car, he might've been removed for HIS OWN SAFETY to calm down. Thrashing around in a confined space, isn't a good idea.

Do we know what Leung was or wasn't ordered to do?


He was saying a lot of words for somebody who supposedly couldn't breathe. Talking requires the movement of air through the larynx, ie breathing. If you can say "I can't breathe" a total of 16 times, along with other things, you clearly CAN breathe.

Link

Under “other significant conditions”, it said, Floyd suffered from heart disease and hypertension, and listed fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use.

And he was planning on driving.

Baden and Wilson found that weight being applied to Floyd’s back, his hands being cuffed behind his back and the position of his body, where he was also at times being restrained by other officers as he lay on the ground, “were contributory factors because they impaired the ability of Mr Floyd’s diaphragm to function”.

Methamphetamine

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Angry outbursts or mood swings
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Fentanyl

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Floyd apparently claimed to be claustrophobic and didn't want to get in the patrol car. He had just been in a car of similar size.

[Carth]

@ nomadking

If I ever get into trouble with the authorities that leads to a court appearance, can I ask for you as my defence lawyer?

. . . please

[downquark1]

This is all certain to be brought up at the trial.

[figgyburn]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...erate-flag-ban

The real story...........


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/...arage-n1231951

Oh that must have hurt the bampots, the real truth.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

@ nomadking

If I ever get into trouble with the authorities that leads to a court appearance, can I ask for you as my defence lawyer?

. . . please

Originally Posted by Carth

@ nomadking

If I ever get into trouble with the authorities that leads to a court appearance, can I ask for you as my defence lawyer?

. . . please

+1

[RichardCoulter]

Virgin Media have now put a black tile up on TiVo with 'Black lives matter' in white lettering.

Pressing it leads to various VOD content.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Virgin Media have now put a black tile up on TiVo with 'Black lives matter' in white lettering.

Pressing it leads to various VOD content.

I'll be avoiding that thanks for the heads up.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Virgin Media have now put a black tile up on TiVo with 'Black lives matter' in white lettering.

Pressing it leads to various VOD content.

Should really be black lettering.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Who exactly? Were polls taken? After every episode of Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, and pretty much every comedy show, are polls taken to make sure the audience understand that it is comedy?

No they are not, the quote from the LA times you posted is 1no. Persons opinion piece. It is not “a lot if people”. I don’t even know what you consider “a lot” to be? Ev3n the author of the post you quoted uses vague terms such as “some” people. Is their “some” equal to your “ a lot”


It’s tripe. And you should know better at your age.



So if I, for example, had an opinion as a white middle aged male, a considered and objective opinion on the matter. That did not fit with the BLM narrative. Then I could express that, no problem, I wouldn’t be attacked, I would be listened to, objectively, and if and were appropriate challenged in a non-violent and threatening way?

Bollocks Hugh and you know it.

Originally Posted by Pierre

what are you on about? I've never said I'm oppressed, I've got white privilege after all.

But nice little trick there to just type anything you want to try belittle my post, because you haven't actually got any plausible answer to it.

Pah!

[Pierre]

??????

You have a funny perception of oppression.


I stated white people aren’t allowed to have a voice on the race issue and are then criticised if they don’t speak out.

You, literally, rubbished that statement

I then pointed out the hypocrisy and a scenario that my voice and view would not be accepted by BLM.


That is not me being oppressed, just pointing out reality.


Oppression was mentioned by you, for one reason and one reason only, to make a snide and what you thought an oh so clever and amusing put down.


You failed in every area.

Thank you for your feedback - it must be difficult for you, when you feel that people of a different colour wouldn’t accept your voice or view.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Nomadking

The list of people who have lost their jobs or been suspended for criticizing or even questioning the BLM movement is long—and growing daily

Add two more to that.

https://news.sky.com/story/burnley-f...s-job-12014075

Some choice quotes:

, the manager of the Blackpool Council-owned airport, Stephen Smith, said: "Blackpool Airport and Blackpool Council are outraged by this incident.

Outraged!

"We stand against racism of any kind and absolutely do not condone the activity. The message was offensive and the action reprehensible."

Just trying to workout how it is racist? I wasn’t offended by it.

---------- Post added at 20:48 ---------- Previous post was at 20:41 ----------

Originally Posted by Hugh

Thank you for your feedback - it must be difficult for you, when you feel that people of a different colour wouldn’t accept your voice or view.

It’s not difficult for me in the slightest, I couldn’t give a monkeys. Just pointing out the hypocrisy that my view/voice wouldn’t be accepted by the BLM movement ( which is a Fundamentalist movement, I’m sure many reasonable black people would listen with consideration) due to colour of my skin, which is hilariously ironic.

Thank you for.................well thanks anyway.

[Carth]

I thought Blackpool airport closed years ago?