Black Lives Matter

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Potentially, but only in response to an idiotic statement.

There you go again,you should try counting slowly to 100 before replying

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

There you go again,you should try counting slowly to 100 before replying

Nothing over the top at all.

The current issue's aren't being caused by people being 'to woke' nor would a further deterioration be able to to be attributed to being 'to woke' either.

There's currently a refusal to listen or hear (to some degree, from all 'sides') which is impacting and will continue to impact the change that needs to be made.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Potentially, but only in response to an idiotic statement.

Nothing idiotic about a statement that suggests there will always be certain people who complain and feel aggrieved at a 'percieved' injustice . . often something so inconsequential that it goes unnoticed apart from those actively looking for such occurences.

If some people have a mindset that they're always picked on, then that's how they will go through life . . . dragging similar minded folk along with them.


edit: post in question =

It'll only get worse because people just to woke and get too offended by the smallest of things that suit any agenda.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Carth

Nothing idiotic about a statement that suggests there will always be certain people who complain and feel aggrieved at a 'percieved' injustice . . often something so inconsequential that it goes unnoticed apart from those actively looking for such occurences.

If some people have a mindset that they're always picked on, then that's how they will go through life . . . dragging similar minded folk along with them.

Apart from the fact the situation isn't 'perceived'

[Carth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Apart from the fact the situation isn't 'perceived'

Read the posts again, you're proving a point

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Apart from the fact the situation isn't 'perceived'

Part of the problem is that some people don’t believe there’s a problem...

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Julian

The single carriageway A303 there.

So it is dualling then ..

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Originally Posted by peanut

It'll only get worse because people just to woke and get too offended by the smallest of things that suit any agenda.

Are you saying that racism is one of these "smallest of things"? You will get people who overreact on both sides of the political spectrum ..

Again we are veering off topic and failing to actually debate the actual issue of racism and solutions.Practical solutions.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by ianch99

So it is dualling then ..

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Are you saying that racism is one of these "smallest of things"? You will get people who overreact on both sides of the political spectrum ..

Nope. I said it'll get worse, because the actual message just gets lost, hijacked, amplified etc etc. As seen here, everything gets argued to death and without any outcome.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Again we are veering off topic and failing to actually debate the actual issue of racism and solutions.Practical solutions.

Trump is ordering a database of excessive force complaints to be created so corrupt police cannot avoid tracking by switching departments.

Originally Posted by downquark1

Trump is ordering a database of excessive force complaints to be created so corrupt police cannot avoid tracking by switching departments.

That's a start.

I think a big part of America's problem is guns. Every misunderstanding, every dodgy bit of policing, every difficult suspect can very quickly escalate.

[BenMcr]

If you can find it still I'd recommend watching the episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver from the other week. A really powerful breakdown of why the police in the US have such a problem with race.

A bit of it is covered here:
https://www.yesmagazine.org/video/jo...dern-policing/

Quoting from Michelle Alexander’s 2010 book The New Jim Crow: “As one Alabama planter said, in the wake of emancipation, ‘We have the power to pass stringent police laws to govern the Negroes—this is a blessing—for they must be controlled in some way or white people cannot live among them.’”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...0ce9e1d79e0c36

This link from today’s Times

Police search four times more likely if you are black

Black people are four times more likely than a white person to be searched by officers from England’s second biggest police force, a report has found.

Chief Constable Dave Thompson, the head of West Midlands police, apologised to black communities, admitting that the force was not “free from bias, discrimination or even racism”.

The report, presented to the strategic policing and crime board yesterday by Superintendent Ed Foster and Superintendent Nick Rowe, revealed that black people were also more likely to be subjected to force, such as being restrained or tasered.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Part of the problem is that some people don’t believe there’s a problem...

is the problem to do with Socio-economic prospects of Black kids, the lack of stable father figures, gang culture and black on black violence........................or 200 year old statues?

I know what I would be focusing my attention on.

[papa smurf]

Here is a Bristol councilor's take on slavery.

Elfan Ap Rees claimed he was stating 'an historical fact' when he said that black slaves exported to the Americas were better off than if they had stayed in Africa

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...after-22205375