Coronavirus (OLD)

Originally Posted by Damien

Don't underestimate the appeal of normality. Same with those queues for McDonald's, the sheer relief of doing something conventional, something normal, something you used to do before the lockdown is a powerful draw. It's not so much they need some cheap jeans or a BigMac but that feeling that life can and will be normal again.

Normality is queuing? I hope not.

Originally Posted by denphone

l have enough clothes for the next 5 years due to the many T Shirts , shorts , etc etc bought for me from my kind family.

l have not ventured out for 12 weeks and l have no intention of venturing out for a fair while yet.

I only wear new stuff when it’s forced on me. Left to myself I could make my present wardrobe last a decade.

[jfman]

I've resurrected a stag do t-shirt from 2017 in the current climate.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

I've resurrected a stag do t-shirt from 2017 in the current climate.

I've resurrected my 1952 Ever Ready London Underground 00 train set (6V batteries).

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Chris

I only wear new stuff when it’s forced on me. Left to myself I could make my present wardrobe last a decade.

The way my hair's growing i'm looking for some flares and an afghan coat

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

The way my hair's growing i'm looking for some flares and an afghan coat

A trilby might be useful for hiding your hair.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I've resurrected my 1952 Ever Ready London Underground 00 train set (6V batteries).

Those batteries have lasted well!

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Those batteries have lasted well!

Halfords, mate!

Listening to the calls to reduce the distancing rules just made me shrug my shoulders mainly because for many it's already happening because the public at large have become very blase about distancing, judging by the way they charge around the supermarket.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Listening to the calls to reduce the distancing rules just made me shrug my shoulders mainly because for many it's already happening because the public at large have become very blase about distancing, judging by the way they charge around the supermarket.

Looking at some of the pictures today there are more people without face masks then there is with those who are wearing face masks.

Social distancing was very patchy as well and in some cases completely non existent.

[Sephiroth]

Thing is, I've been going to my local Waitrose (no sign of OB) every few days since before lock down, no mask and I'm not infected with CV. About 30% of their customers and 20% of floor staff wearing masks. A couple of luxury masks around, though, followed them out curiosity to a couple of Porsche and Range Rover SUVs.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Thing is, I've been going to my local Waitrose (no sign of OB) every few days since before lock down, no mask and I'm not infected with CV. About 30% of their customers and 20% of floor staff wearing masks. A couple of luxury masks around, though, followed them out curiosity to a couple of Porsche and Range Rover SUVs.

This is the thing though the chances of you catching Coronavirus (right now) are extremely small. The emergency brake has been applied. The R number is around, just above or or just below one, so statistically those small number of people will infect one other in the course of their infection. That’s not likely to be you.

Wandering round a shop, even if you got close to one other person who had the virus, chances are you wouldn’t be close enough for long enough.

Where and when this turns on it’s head is offices opening up, and tens of thousands of commuters travelling in and out of major cities. Suddenly lots of people in air conditioned environments and on public transport are infecting each other and your chances of bumping into a few folk with the virus in Waitrose improves.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

This is the thing though the chances of you catching Coronavirus (right now) are extremely small. The emergency brake has been applied. The R number is around, just above or or just below one, so statistically those small number of people will infect one other in the course of their infection. That’s not likely to be you.

Wandering round a shop, even if you got close to one other person who had the virus, chances are you wouldn’t be close enough for long enough.

Where and when this turns on it’s head is offices opening up, and tens of thousands of commuters travelling in and out of major cities. Suddenly lots of people in air conditioned environments and on public transport are infecting each other and your chances of bumping into a few folk with the virus in Waitrose improves.

No never. Not Waitrose!

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

No never. Not Waitrose!

Don’t worry - it will be a reassuringly superior quality virus.

As they say "You can taste when it’s Waitrose & Partners’ coronavirus"...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Manufacturing herd immunity by controlling the virus isn’t a viable option. Estimates put antibodies in anything between 4 and 14% of populations across the world - even heavily hit areas of Spain/Germany, at a cost of 50,000 lives (those we count) for us with no consideration of longer term health implications for those infected. And taken five months.

To get to 80% infected puts you in the region of two years of disruption and various stages of restrictions. Plus 200,000+ deaths. This without any evidence of long term immunity at all.

Economically that’s madness to drag it out for so long.

But surely, the measures in place will only succeed in dragging this out even longer. In that time, the virus could mutate and we start over.

Only an effective vaccine will resolve the problem.