Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Black Lives Matter

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs
Register FAQ Community Calendar

Black Lives Matter
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-06-2020, 18:19   #271
Paul
Dr Pepper Addict
Cable Forum Team
 
Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Nottingham
Age: 62
Services: Aquiss FTTP (900M), Sky Q TV, Sky Mobile, Flextel SIP
Posts: 29,563
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
If a junior employee knew about it, obviously those higher up the hierarchy did.
It may have been known to "insiders" but it was not general public knowledge.
__________________

Baby, I was born this way.
Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 10-06-2020, 18:40   #272
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,460
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Black Lives Matter

It’s interesting to see CF’ers varying views on this subject.

Has anyone discussed this with black friends, neighbours, or family? What were their views? (if you feel like sharing).
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 19:06   #273
Sephiroth
Wisdom & truth
 
Sephiroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: RG41
Services: RG41: 1Gig VOLT Rutland: Gigaclear 400/400
Posts: 12,281
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
It’s interesting to see CF’ers varying views on this subject.

Has anyone discussed this with black friends, neighbours, or family? What were their views? (if you feel like sharing).
Yes - with a colleague who progressed from Apprentice to fully fledged employee and then onto a double salary elsewhere in London.

His attitude was that times had moved on and that in the UK movements of the BLM type were ill-judged, trouble making and a road to nowhere. He is of Sierra Leone origin and some of the influences (apart from me as his manager) were how The UK stood by Sierra Leone during a period of political instability and how the UK responded to the EBOLA plague - plus white girls love him.

It makes one wonder why the demonstrators are bothering given that the trigger was typical US police brutality.

__________________
Seph.

My advice is at your risk.
Sephiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 19:22   #274
TheDaddy
cf.mega pornstar
 
TheDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 19,150
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Nobody seemed to mind when new information came out about some modern-day "heroes", which informed a different viewpoint (Saville & Harris) - don’t hear calls for memorials for their philanthropic work...
Any memorial to those people isn't grade two listed

Quote:
It’s not about "removing heroes", it’s about providing a fuller picture, rather than the sanitised version currently in place.
And you provide a fuller picture by removing the object fully? I'm all for plaques beung added saying exactly what they did btw and in some peoples minds it is exactly about removing heroes, Nelson being the prime example
__________________
Sports Babble
TheDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 19:27   #275
Damien
Remoaner
Cable Forum Team
 
Damien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,718
Damien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver bling
Damien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver bling
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
And you provide a fuller picture by removing the object fully? I'm all for plaques beung added saying exactly what they did btw and in some peoples minds it is exactly about removing heroes, Nelson being the prime example
In some cases they want them put in museums instead, other people want them kept but with the additional context and fewer people support the removal of Nelson than Colston. One of the ideas for the colston statue now is that they kept the plinth it was on and the part of it that broke off on the floor, so there is a still a landmark to explain who he was and why it's gone.
Damien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 20:34   #276
idi banashapan
step on my trip
 
idi banashapan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,744
idi banashapan has a nice shiny star
idi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny star
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post


It makes one wonder why the demonstrators are bothering given that the trigger was typical US police brutality.

Unfortunately, it seems sizeable number of people are using the guise of 'demonstation' or 'protest' to riot, vandalise, bully, disrupt and generally cause nuisance (in the US and the UK). There are plenty of videos surfacing on the internet to support this viewpoint.

A lot of people are certainly not 'peaceful protesters'. It's a shame, because it takes away from the true cause of the upset and substantially undermines what the vast majority are trying to bring attention to. I think the bigger picture in all of this is really just 'police brutality (in the US) - period. A little bit of power can go to people's heads and it is abused.

Of course, we mustn't forget the 90's classic 'Killing in the name of' - poignant right now, perhaps?
__________________
“Most people don’t listen to understand. They listen to reply. Be different.”

- Jefferson Fisher
idi banashapan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 20:56   #277
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 15,152
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by idi banashapan View Post
Unfortunately, it seems sizeable number of people are using the guise of 'demonstation' or 'protest' to riot, vandalise, bully, disrupt and generally cause nuisance (in the US and the UK). There are plenty of videos surfacing on the internet to support this viewpoint.
What do you mean by sizable?

Also important to note that some content going around actually comes from totally different demonstrations.
Quote:
A collection of photos showing injured police officers has been shared across social media. It has been suggested that the images come from last weekend’s Black Lives Matter protests in the UK.
However, half of the six pictures shown in the composite weren’t taken at those protests. The image of a police medic with a cut under his eye was taken at a protest in support of Tommy Robinson in London on 9 June 2018. The image of a police officer with blood on her cheek was taken at a protest in London on 9 April 2016 against David Cameron.
https://fullfact.org/online/blm-prot...ndon-pictures/
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 23:39   #278
peanut
NUTS !!
 
peanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,198
peanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny star
peanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny starpeanut has a nice shiny star
Re: Black Lives Matter

Bozo needs to get a grip on this before it spirals out of control.
__________________
Oh what fun it is
peanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 23:49   #279
TheDaddy
cf.mega pornstar
 
TheDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 19,150
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien View Post
In some cases they want them put in museums instead, other people want them kept but with the additional context and fewer people support the removal of Nelson than Colston. One of the ideas for the colston statue now is that they kept the plinth it was on and the part of it that broke off on the floor, so there is a still a landmark to explain who he was and why it's gone.
It being part of this nations heritage is gone because a mob took the law into their own hands and broke both the law and that statue whilst the police lookrd on and did nothing and now on the whim of the mob more of our cultural heritage is being discarded and there's plans for even more of it to go. I was furious when the Taliban blew up the Buddha's, isis desecrated Palmyra and I'm not keen on this vandalism at all either.
__________________
Sports Babble
TheDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 23:54   #280
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 15,152
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
It being part of this nations heritage is gone because a mob took the law into their own hands and broke both the law and that statue whilst the police lookrd on and did nothing and now on the whim of the mob more of our cultural heritage is being discarded and there's plans for even more of it to go. I was furious when the Taliban blew up the Buddha's, isis desecrated Palmyra and I'm not keen on this vandalism at all either.
How did you feel when the Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad was toppled?
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2020, 00:41   #281
pip08456
Sad Doig Fan!
 
pip08456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 69
Services: With VM for BB 250Mb service.(Deal)
Posts: 11,802
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
pip08456 has a nice shiny star
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
How did you feel when the Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad was toppled?
Totally different context.
pip08456 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2020, 00:59   #282
Paul
Dr Pepper Addict
Cable Forum Team
 
Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Nottingham
Age: 62
Services: Aquiss FTTP (900M), Sky Q TV, Sky Mobile, Flextel SIP
Posts: 29,563
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
How did you feel when the Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad was toppled?
Was Saddam Hussein over 300 years old at the time ?

---------- Post added at 00:59 ---------- Previous post was at 00:56 ----------

They even want to remove Robert Peel statues

Quote:
[he] .. created the modern concept of policing, which has disproportionately targeted the poor and ethnic minorities worldwide for centuries
What planet are this idiots on.
__________________

Baby, I was born this way.
Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2020, 04:02   #283
TheDaddy
cf.mega pornstar
 
TheDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 19,150
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
How did you feel when the Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad was toppled?
Funnily enough I put that in the post you replied to but just knew someone was going to ask so removed it, Saddam's statue was put up a year before it was pulled down, hardly the same is it
__________________
Sports Babble
TheDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2020, 07:48   #284
idi banashapan
step on my trip
 
idi banashapan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,744
idi banashapan has a nice shiny star
idi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny staridi banashapan has a nice shiny star
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
What do you mean by sizable?
More that there should be.
__________________
“Most people don’t listen to understand. They listen to reply. Be different.”

- Jefferson Fisher
idi banashapan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2020, 09:05   #285
Maggy
The Invisible Woman
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 72
Services: VM XL TV,50 MB VM BB,VM landline, Tivo
Posts: 40,333
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:
Originally Posted by downquark1 View Post
Maggy, a few months ago I had a discussion with someone saying they want to drop World War I from the syllabus. Do you know anything about this?
Never heard anything about it..it would be a massive mistake.Erasing any part of history from the syllabus seems absolutely moronic to me. In fact they need to add more especially involving black history and cover how in 2 world wars how people of colour were part of both. They weren't just fought and won by white people.
__________________
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Shakespeare..
Maggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:42.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum