General : Changes to Virgin TV (2020)

[KingFry]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

OFCOM ruled that certain PSB channels should have EPG prominence, and the rules come into force January 2021. If BBC3 returns it probably will qualify.
https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/how-...-you-find.html

Yes it will have to be within the first 24 channel numbers, it’s no more likely to be on 106 than any other channel.

Getting rid of those SD channels in the first 24 slots would make VM’s life easier.

BBC3 will most likely end up on 107. BBC4 will close completely.

[SonicMaster]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

I'm sure that once Virgin Media can work all this out with the broadcasters, then they'll appear properly. But that's a combination of work from both sides.

VM claim that My5 is included in the integrated search:

David Bouchier, Chief Digital Entertainment Officer at Virgin Media, added: “The My5 app will give our customers access to even more great content and the integrated search will make it easier to find the shows that they love most. This is all part of providing our customers with the most streamlined experience possible with all of their favourite programmes and apps in one place.”

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-virgin-media/

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by KingFry

Yes it will have to be within the first 24 channel numbers, it’s no more likely to be on 106 than any other channel.

Getting rid of those SD channels in the first 24 slots would make VM’s life easier.

BBC3 will most likely end up on 107. BBC4 will close completely.

The BBC have specifically said that BBC4 will not be closing, albeit it that going forward it will be going in a different direction.

[KingFry]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The BBC have specifically said that BBC4 will not be closing, albeit it that going forward it will be going in a different direction.

Just like they said BBC3 was over as a linear channel?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by KingFry

Just like they said BBC3 was over as a linear channel?

Fair point!

[fox35]

Originally Posted by SonicMaster

VM claim that My5 is included in the integrated search:

David Bouchier, Chief Digital Entertainment Officer at Virgin Media, added: “The My5 app will give our customers access to even more great content and the integrated search will make it easier to find the shows that they love most. This is all part of providing our customers with the most streamlined experience possible with all of their favourite programmes and apps in one place.”

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-virgin-media/

He lied.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by fox35

He lied.

That explains a lot then, attitudes often cascade down from the top to front line workers.

I've just found out about another lie that i've been repeatedly told.by the staff at that foreign call centre.

I have been getting pixelation and was reassured time and time again that I would not be charged until it was sorted out. Now that it has, the line has changed to "we only stop charging for a complete loss of TV service"! I explained that it's pointless watching a programme with chunks missing or the ending chopped off, but they are now either playing dumb or being deliberately obtuse. You'd get more sense and information out of a Chatbot!

Another complaint will be being made to their regulator. No doubt the phone calls won't have been recorded, it's funny how the ones that benefit the customer never are

I have been refused details of the notes on my account, so need to contact the Information Commissioner too.

[vincerooney]

Originally Posted by KingFry

Just like they said BBC3 was over as a linear channel?

i never understood why they closed bbc 3 down in the first place. BBC1 - entertainment BBC2 - mainly factual programs BBC3- young adults i.e. the future of the license fee.

I understand they think people who watch BBC3 are techies so watch more streaming shows but BBC2 and BBC4 in my eyes were far too similar! The content on BBC4 could easily be moved onto BBC2

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by vincerooney

i never understood why they closed bbc 3 down in the first place. BBC1 - entertainment BBC2 - mainly factual programs BBC3- young adults i.e. the future of the license fee.

I understand they think people who watch BBC3 are techies so watch more streaming shows but BBC2 and BBC4 in my eyes were far too similar! The content on BBC4 could easily be moved onto BBC2

The Beeb were very careless over the BBC3 change. It is far too early to put this channel on demand only and they have learned this lesson the hard way.

They need to have a co-ordinated strategy for all their channels - it is a mistake to just single out one channel for special treatment in this way.

Later in the decade, when the majority of viewers are more comfortable with on demand viewing as the main way they watch TV, and their on demand platforms are made easier to use, they will need to dilute the programmes on the scheduled traditional channels and also provide further inducements (including most of their new programming) to ensure that people can see advantages to moving to VOD. When the time is right, they would need to close down all the channels at the same time.

[cheekyangus]

Well not all the channels, some programming needs to be live.
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I don't find BBC4 and BBC2 too similar, the former is arts, history and science, the latter is lifestyle, niche entertainment and miscellaneous factual.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The Beeb were very careless over the BBC3 change.

Yes, they listened to some mad man who insisted on demand was the future and linear TV was dead

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Yes, they listened to some mad man who insisted on demand was the future and linear TV was dead

He does move those goalposts a lot as they get so confused they don't know which end of the pitch to go to now.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

Well not all the channels, some programming needs to be live.
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I don't find BBC4 and BBC2 too similar, the former is arts, history and science, the latter is lifestyle, niche entertainment and miscellaneous factual.

You can already watch live on the BBC i-Player, cheeky.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Yes, they listened to some mad man who insisted on demand was the future and linear TV was dead

Except they got ahead of themselves and didn't have a proper plan.

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Originally Posted by denphone

He does move those goalposts a lot as they get so confused they don't know which end of the pitch to go to now.

It's 2020, not 2035, Den. Wait for it!

[cheekyangus]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You can already watch live on the BBC i-Player, cheeky.

I know. However, not everyone has internet, let alone decent enough internet.

And even in properties with good enough internet, there can be problems with distribution within them. You can usually get TV signals in places with problem wifi. Powerline plugs don't work everywhere.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

I know. However, not everyone has internet, let alone decent enough internet.

And even in properties with good enough internet, there can be problems with distribution within them. You can usually get TV signals in places with problem wifi. Powerline plugs don't work everywhere.

As someone who visits a lot of elderly people's home for work, I can say

A) there are a lot of old people
B) at least 50% of those rely on standard linear TV programs
C) many have no access to broadband in their homes

I think this is because of the high cost of cable/satellite and broadband

These are 3 reasons why linear TV will continue for a long time yet.