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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Funny that isn't it, just as a report states that BAME people are more likely to be impacted by COVID 19, BAME and others all congregate to protest that black lives matter, thereby putting more of those lives that matter at risk. |  All lives matter, a point clearly lost on idiot protesters, who put themselves and families at risk. 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  Labour mp puts lives at risk for publicity stunt |  So presumably the press are hounding him to resign ?    
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					Originally Posted by Paul  All lives matter, a point clearly lost on idiot protesters, who put themselves and families at risk. 
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So presumably the press are hounding him to resign ?   I await the outraged forum members from last weeks topic also calling for his head.  |  Sadly a great wall of hypocrisy  has been erected as usual.
		 
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		|  05-06-2020, 10:21 | #3723 |  
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			What, you mean the topic we're not allowed to talk about because certain people gotten too upset...
		 
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		|  05-06-2020, 10:49 | #3724 |  
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			This makes sense and the same must go for some other professions as well. 
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		| Coronavirus: Police planning their own contact tracing system over concerns about government's version Police forces are planning their own contact tracing system over concerns the government's test and trace scheme could place officers in danger, Sky News has learned.
 Under the plans, police officers who test positive for COVID-19 would not give their contacts to NHS contact tracers, but would instead inform their police force who would take over contact tracing to identify anyone at risk of catching the virus.
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					Originally Posted by Paul  All lives matter, a point clearly lost on idiot protesters, who put themselves and families at risk. 
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So presumably the press are hounding him to resign ?    
I await the outraged forum members from last weeks topic also calling for his head.    |  No, it's a point lost on people who fail to grasp a fundamental concept.
 
If a house is on fire, the fire brigade go to that house, not check people are OK two doors down. Or, to put it another way. You wouldn't go to a breast cancer march and start saying 'All cancer matters' 
 
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		|  05-06-2020, 11:16 | #3726 |  
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					Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees  No, it's a point lost on people who fail to grasp a fundamental concept.
 If a house is on fire, the fire brigade go to that house, not check people are OK two doors down. Or, to put it another way. You wouldn't go to a breast cancer march and start saying 'All cancer matters'
 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  So only black lives matter right now,is that because it makes you feel good right now ? what about the rest of humanity where do they stand in all this right now. |  A good debate but worthy of its own thread?
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  A good debate but worthy of its own thread? |  Agreed
		 
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		|  05-06-2020, 11:28 | #3729 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  So only black lives matter right now,is that because it makes you feel good right now ? what about the rest of humanity where do they stand in all this right now. |  It's a choice. Obviously a risk at present but still a choice to be able to protest.  No need to turn it into something different. If it is something that someone feels that strongly about then that's their prerogative. 
 
But still, I can't quite compare that MP who protested to Cummings though. One lied and one didn't. One that was isolating since March and most likely a much less risk than someone who was with someone who was infected and did actually put the public (and family) at risk. But if we should be able to comment  on one then we should be able to comment on all..
		 
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			[QUOTE=peanut;36038402]It's a choice. Obviously a risk at present but still a choice to be able to protest.  No need to turn it into something different. If it is something that someone feels that strongly about then that's their prerogative. 
 
 
 
 
 The problem is only 6 people are allowed to meet up with others outside whilst observing a 2 mtr distance , what if the infections now start to spike in areas where these protests have taken place.
 
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			That is their risk. It is a problem, and I hope it doesn't spike in result. But having a Government that isn't taking it seriously enough nor setting a good example helps either.  Maybe things would have been totally different believed and accept what we're told. If we're all in it together kind of thing but it is a complete mess.
		 
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					Originally Posted by peanut  That is their risk. It is a problem, and I hope it doesn't spike in result. But having a Government that isn't taking it seriously enough nor setting a good example helps either.  Maybe things would have been totally different believed and accept what we're told. If we're all in it together kind of thing but it is a complete mess. |  That's like firing a gun into a crown and calling it an acceptable risk that no one is killed.
		 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  That's like firing a gun into a crown and calling it an acceptable risk that no one is killed. |  Call it what you like. Doesn't change anything. Why highlight just that part, why not comment on the rest too..
		 
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					Originally Posted by downquark1  Did Cummings lie? |  Well that depends on what side of the fence you sit on doesn't it.
		 
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