Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures

[papa smurf]

KEIR STARMER's attack on Boris Johnson's over his decision to stand by his chief political adviser Dominic Cummings massively backfired as Britons called on the Labour leader to fire his own ministers.

BBC viewers took to Twitter to accuse the Labour leader of being a hypocrite.

One viewer said: “Another pointless Keir Starmer sound bite ...Durham police spoke out yea correct NO ACTION.

"Not dealing with Cummings.. hmm Stephen Kinnock got a promotion. Tahir Ali NO Action. Kevan Jones NO ACTION...That's strong leadership Is it Mr Starmer.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...-latest-update

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

KEIR STARMER's attack on Boris Johnson's over his decision to stand by his chief political adviser Dominic Cummings massively backfired as Britons called on the Labour leader to fire his own ministers.

BBC viewers took to Twitter to accuse the Labour leader of being a hypocrite.

One viewer said: “Another pointless Keir Starmer sound bite ...Durham police spoke out yea correct NO ACTION.

"Not dealing with Cummings.. hmm Stephen Kinnock got a promotion. Tahir Ali NO Action. Kevan Jones NO ACTION...That's strong leadership Is it Mr Starmer.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...-latest-update

It is hypocrisy, but we’ve come expect that From Both sides.

[pedant] Starmer doesn’t have any ministers[/pedant]. But I know what you mean.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Where do you get that shit from? You've done it again - ascribing to me absence of a response to a point not made in the post which I was replying. You still haven't apologised to me for the last occasion you did that a couple of days ago.

Why are you asking me to step back? I made a highly objective comment in my post. You know absolutely nothing about what, if anything, Cummins holds over the Tory hierarchy. You're worse than the "media ****".

How you could justify that remark from the post I made is a mystery. Did you just feel like being nasty? I'm not a tribal Tory and you'd have a difficult time trying to prove that I am.

What a strange post. There are no apologies required here unless you want to apologise for calling me "worse than media ****" If your tribal loyalties preclude you on commenting on what the situation might look like if this were a Labour Government then that's fine. Disappointing but expected ..

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

What a strange post. There are no apologies required here unless you want to apologise for calling me "worse than media ****" If your tribal loyalties preclude you on commenting on what the situation might look like if this were a Labour Government then that's fine. Disappointing but expected ..

You are a real irritation. You're stirring your usual crock again. I haven't been replying to any posts about "what the situation might look like if this were a Labour Government". So why try and stuff that down my throat?

You've likened me to a "tribal Tory", which I'm obviously (to others) not - though I am a long standing member of the Conservative Party. You've accused me of ignoring all sorts of posts to which I have not replied.

For the record, if there were a Labour government in this pickle, I'd take a reasonable view on the matter. Anyway they've got questions to answer about some of their own prominente's behaviour during lock down.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You are a real irritation. You're stirring your usual crock again. I haven't been replying to any posts about "what the situation might look like if this were a Labour Government". So why try and stuff that down my throat?

You've likened me to a "tribal Tory", which I'm obviously (to others) not - though I am a long standing member of the Conservative Party. You've accused me of ignoring all sorts of posts to which I have not replied.

For the record, if there were a Labour government in this pickle, I'd take a reasonable view on the matter. Anyway they've got questions to answer about some of their own prominente's behaviour during lock down.

Thanks for the compliment (and the apology)

"I'm not tribal"? Hmmm ..

Tribal politics means following a particular path of policies more associated with a political party dogma rather than the general good of the country and all the people.

Seems a fair assessment of your posts, at least the ones I have read. At the risk of venturing off topic, your views on delivering a Hard Brexit at all costs, exactly align with this definition.

Regarding any Labour transgressions of the lockdown rules, of course they should be admonished according to the same rules and guidance that No 10 issued to the country. Much like the Conservative member for Delyn, North Wales:

Police break up illegal lockdown birthday party at Tory MP's house

[Julian]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Much like the Conservative member for Delyn, North Wales:

Police break up illegal lockdown birthday party at Tory MP's house

No surprise that the phone hacking *******s at that rag try to link a tory mp to that.

They are separated. He wasn't there. So absolutely nothing to do with him.

Nice try though.

ianch99 and Sephiroph [asa][/asa]

[Mr K]

What this whole episode proves is what a weak and talentless PM we have. He can't function without Dominic Cummings. If it had been a minster he'd have been sacked/resigned. The country us being run by someone who is unelected and who thinks they're above the law.

[Sephiroth]

I'm pleased that the Cummings affair has taken a back seat in the news - at least for now.

It's not important.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm pleased that the Cummings affair has taken a back seat in the news - at least for now.

It's not important.

It have taken a back seat if he'd gone. As it is it'll keep coming back again and again, on who is really running the country.

Labour were the only opposition party that wouldn't sign the letter demanding Cummings went, wonder why?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

It have taken a back seat if he'd gone. As it is it'll keep coming back again and again, on who is really running the country.

Labour were the only opposition party that wouldn't sign the letter demanding Cummings went, wonder why?

Old people are and don't you forget it.

[Mr K]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/29/there...down-12778341/

Theresa May has told constituents she feels Dominic Cummings failed to ‘follow the spirit’ of the coronavirus guidance.

The former prime minister said in a statement to voters in Maidenhead that she could ‘well understand’ the public’s ‘anger’ at the revelation he drove 260 miles from London to Durham at the height of lockdown. Mrs May said the furore has shown ‘that there was a discrepancy between the simple messages given by Government and the details of the legislation passed by Parliament’, adding: ‘In these circumstances I do not feel that Mr Cummings followed the spirit of the guidance.’

Well that's told him.

Mind you, she can talk, I'm still waiting police to interview her about her 'running through the fields of wheat' admission.

Locky Locky

[denphone]

Seeing that this also involves Coronavirus here is the confirmation that the Dominic Cummings row has had a considerable effect in the latest opinion poll after polling by Opinium for the Observer.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ings-should-go

The survey by Opinium for the Observer shows a massive 81% think Cummings broke the rules. It also finds that support for the Conservatives is collapsing, with the party now just four points ahead of Labour, having had a commanding lead of 26 points just two months ago.

[Julian]

I knew there was no way, with the other thread locked, a tenuous link would not be found to mention him here