Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Probably not. It depends on what's going on. The press were not acting like slags over the expenses scandal, for example.

First of all I’d like to apologise for the ‘oh be quiet’ comment written in frustration. Hopefully you will accept.

However, I think the press would be all over any senior advisor regardless of which political party he was working for if they acted in the same way.

You just know how stone cold crazy this is getting when you have pratts like Alastair Campbell lecturing the government on lying when he and his former boss lied through their teeth on WMD and took us in to an unnecessary war.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Mick

You just know how stone cold crazy this is getting when you have pratts like Alastair Campbell lecturing the government on lying when he and his former boss lied through their teeth on WMD and took us in to an unnecessary war.

Maybe they couldn’t see very well?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Chris

Because as anyone with young children knows, the chance of going that length of time in a car without stopping for the toilet is essentially zero. So one or more members of the travelling party would have been exposed to unsanitised surfaces in public places (and risked spreading contamination themselves) once, or quite possibly multiple times, during the trip.

Not good news for those who take full advantage of the hedging and ditching season!

Seriously, these character assassination tactics are pathetic and I think his interview this afternoon has done him a lot of good with the public.

These vindictive reporters are doing themselves no favours, and frankly, this will show up the BBC to be anti-Conservatives for all to see. That will do their 'politically neutral' argument no good at all!

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Mick

Vision can be weird but was it totally defective to the point he could no longer legally drive at all, clearly not.

Next?

(and btw this is not a license for you to barrage me with constant nitty gritty arguments Mythica.)

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If vision is weird, you don't step into a car to see if you are able to drive. That's common sense.

Edit to add that if anything did happen then I'd doubt your insurance would cover you either.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

First of all I’d like to apologise for the ‘oh be quiet’ comment written in frustration. Hopefully you will accept.

However, I think the press would be all over any senior advisor regardless of which political party he was working for if they acted in the same way.

That's very kind and gracious. I took no offence and anyway, you're nowhere near my Forum shit list!

You're almost right in your second paragraph. The rider is that they are especially vicious when they don't like the setup - as in Boris/Cummings = Boris is shallow and they think that Cummings rules the entire roost.

[richard s]

I will drive 300 hundred miles and I will drive 300 more...



A SPECIAL LIAR TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That's very kind and gracious. I took no offence and anyway, you're nowhere near my Forum shit list!

You're almost right in your second paragraph. The rider is that they are especially vicious when they don't like the setup - as in Boris/Cummings = Boris is shallow and they think that Cummings rules the entire roost.

I’d agree they don’t like the setup, but I think that’s been exacerbated further by the strengths of Boris’s we have to work together, we have to work as one message. Which I think the majority of the nation took to heart and made considerable sacrifices for. There are a great deal of very very angry people in the populace who believe that DC still has questions to answer (as the ongoing police investigation would agree too) and are upset with Boris’s dismissive attitude yesterday and DC’s contrite performance today.

I’ll wholeheartedly admit I have a degree of bias I hope the police investigation results in him being charged, found guilty and him losing his job.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by denphone

Some decent questioning from the last 2 journo's.

On the whole I was disappointed with their questions, why didn't one of them ask why his wife didn't drive, even if they know the answer why she didn't it's still an obvious one to ask.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

‘I drove to Barnard Castle to test my eyesight’

Of course he did....

That's the one that scuppers him imo, drive 30 miles to a local beauty spot to test your eyesight during the height of lockdown he helped implement , spend 15 minutes by the river and then drive 30 miles back again. I don't think this will go away because of that, he claims this was all done to protect his family then drives them 60 miles when he thinks his eyesight might be iffy

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mythica

If vision is weird, you don't step into a car to see if you are able to drive. That's common sense.

Edit to add that if anything did happen then I'd doubt your insurance would cover you either.

Exactly. Dominic Cummins came across well today except when pressed by some of the more thoughtful reporters. No issues with his tirip to the hospital but as for the rest of the story - well, more holes in it than in my teabag!
To take just one aspect - his wife drives so no need for him to test his eyesight on the 60-mile round family trip to Barnard Castle on his wife's birthday. She could have driven back to London instead of him or she could have taken over if he'd felt his sight was not up to scratch.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by richard s

I will drive 300 hundred miles and I will drive 300 more...



A SPECIAL LIAR TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC

Would possibly be funny if he’d gone 300 miles, or 500 miles or if he was ginger, Scottish and had a twin brother.

But none of the above.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I’ll wholeheartedly admit I have a degree of bias I hope the police investigation results in him being charged, found guilty and him losing his job.

Then you are clearly as 'bent' as the media. Disappointed in you totally.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52793960 @19.43

During the briefing, Mr Johnson was asked repeatedly about Dominic Cummings' claim that he drove to a beauty spot to "test his eyesight", and about calls for him to quit.

Gesturing to his glasses, he said: "On the point about eyesight, I'm finding I have to wear spectacles for the first time in years, I think, because of the effects of this thing. So... I think that's very, very plausible that there is that eyesight can be a problem associated with coronavirus."

Daily Mail 20th October 2014

I'm blind as a bat, says Boris Johnson: London Mayor admits to needing his glasses to see anything around the house

Boris Johnson claimed yesterday that he suffers from extremely poor eyesight and can barely see anything around the house without his glasses on.

The London Mayor - said to have his eyes firmly fixed on one day leading the Tory party - said: ‘I’m now so short-sighted, I’m blind! My eyes used to be fantastic but now…’

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Exactly. Dominic Cummins came across well today except when pressed by some of the more thoughtful reporters. No issues with his tirip to the hospital but as for the rest of the story - well, more holes in it than in my teabag!
To take just one aspect - his wife drives so no need for him to test his eyesight on the 60-mile round family trip to Barnard Castle on his wife's birthday. She could have driven back to London instead of him or she could have taken over if he'd felt his sight was not up to scratch.

The bit I don't get is he's had some time to think and the best he could come with is, he got into a killing machine to see if his eyes were ok, oh I had my wife and son with me too. If he is telling the truth, I'd question whether he's all there.

Originally Posted by Mythica

The bit I don't get is he's had some time to think and the best he could come with is, he got into a killing machine to see if his eyes were ok, oh I had my wife and son with me too. If he is telling the truth, I'd question whether he's all there.

A car is not a killing machine FFS.