Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You’re reinforcing my point? Exactly he was only with his family so what difference does it make?
clearly you are on the the pop as that makes no sense.


1. You don’t know if he refuelled the vehicle
2. He didn’t break down

I’m going to Ed i suggest you should too

It makes perfect sense.

No I'm not. That's your quote. You've messed the quotes up. Are you OK? How could you not know that was your own quote.

You don't know that he didn't fuel up.
He didnt know he wouldn't break down.

You seem pretty confused. Next time read the full post and none of this would have happened.

[papa smurf]

If mr cummings employer insists he has done nothing wrong what grounds would there be to legally sack him ?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

If mr cummings employer insists he has done nothing wrong what grounds would there be to legally sack him ?

Indeed which is why they've now got themselves in a hole. Cummings doesn't seem the kind of guy that will go voluntarily. Backing him over the last day has been yet another Bozza mistake.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

If mr cummings employer insists he has done nothing wrong what grounds would there be to legally sack him ?

l think the simple fact is that his employer the PM knows if he does not sack him there is a strong likelihood of further considerable reputational damage to the Government as there has already has been some reputational damage in these last 24 hours to HMG.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

l think the simple fact is that his employer the PM knows if he does not sack him there is a strong likelihood of considerable damage to the Government as there has already has been some damage in these last 24 hours to it.

I was under the impression we had laws protecting employees and if his employer insists he has done no wrong on what grounds would he be sacked.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I was under the impression we had laws protecting employees and if his employer insists he has done no wrong on what grounds would he be sacked.

Very true, and every minister that goes on TV in the foreseeable future will just be asked about Cummings. Interesting isn't it? Shaps didn't get a word about Transport out this morning in his TV interview.

He must be made to resign, but does he have some dirt/his memoirs to come out ? The Boris insurance plan

[Hom3r]

TBH if he's sacked so should ever member of the public be sacked from their jobs how broke the rules.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Very true, and every minister that goes on TV in the foreseeable future will just be asked about Cummings. Interesting isn't it? Shaps didn't get a word about Transport out this morning in his TV interview.

He must be made to resign, but does he have some dirt/his memoirs to come out ? The Boris insurance plan

It's not at all interesting, it is obsessional. The media were right to flag this up, but it's time to move on. I want to hear about what's going on in the world, not what Cummings did to protect his family in the lockdown.

All so many people seem to care about these days is Twitter-like tittle-tattle. If we really want the government to be getting on with running the country, we really need to step back a bit and let them do their jobs. Some people seem to think that the role of the opposition is to try to trip the government up every step of the way, but I don't believe that this is how democracy should work.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

TBH if he's sacked so should ever member of the public be sacked from their jobs how broke the rules.

Yes, if any members of the public helped devised the policies and rules that applied to seventy million people then they should also be sacked

Otherwise you’re talking utter nonsense

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Just to clarify matters - there were no separate sections for people's household status at the time that Dominic Cummings drove to Durham. Rules is rules, especially if you helped write them!

Yes, he may well have got them added two weeks later after the press asked about his relocation to Durham.

How many people have access to guest houses or annexes? How would you write that into the rules in a simple manner? There are other examples where subsequent clarification and adjustment of the rules were made, eg maintenance of allotments counting as exercise, self-isolating and going into your garden. Technically even moving into an annex or guest house on the SAME property would be breaking the "rules" as it would still be another address. That is obviously absurd.

There was NO CONTACT with other people. The underlying principle behind the rules is to self-isolate the household from ALL others. They maintained that principle. For the vast majority of people that would involve staying at home.

Although only a few instances have been exposed, from the number of positive tests from football players, they've been breaking lockdown on a large scale, having parties etc. After this amount of time in lockdown, they shouldn't be getting it.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by nomadking

How many people have access to guest houses or annexes? How would you write that into the rules in a simple manner? There are other examples where subsequent clarification and adjustment of the rules were made, eg maintenance of allotments counting as exercise, self-isolating and going into your garden. Technically even moving into an annex or guest house on the SAME property would be breaking the "rules" as it would still be another address. That is obviously absurd.

There was NO CONTACT with other people. The underlying principle behind the rules is to self-isolate the household from ALL others. They maintained that principle. For the vast majority of people that would involve staying at home.

Although only a few instances have been exposed, from the number of positive tests from football players, they've been breaking lockdown on a large scale, having parties etc. After this amount of time in lockdown, they shouldn't be getting it.

How do you know they maintained that principle?

Tory MEP: One of the ‘witnesses’ alleging they saw Cummings - the claimed second sighting reported in Guardian - looked up his number plate. Isn’t that illegal?.

Local people saying main witness was a known Labour activist.

Hmm...

[jfman]

Anyone can look up the MOT history of any vehicle here.

https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

That said what the ‘witness’ said in the press is that the number plate matched a photo of Dominic Cummings car (or the make, model, presumably colour and first five digits of the licence plate on an image that showed up in a google search. A bit of an odd thing to do, but not a crime.

I’m not sure the relevance of him being a Labour activist. Either Cummings was in Durham or he wasn’t, and if he was the Government either wilfully mislead the public yesterday or didn’t bother asking Dom the obvious question - look mate if we send folk out to run defense what else are we going to find.

It could get worse if there’s photos or potentially a third rumoured trip to Durham comes to anything. It would certainly call into his judgement if he was wilfully just flouting the lockdown when he knows millions of people voted for other political parties. Schoolboy error.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Mick

Tory MEP: One of the ‘witnesses’ alleging they saw Cummings - the claimed second sighting reported in Guardian - looked up his number plate. Isn’t that illegal?.

Local people saying main witness was a known Labour activist.

Hmm...

Depends where he looked up the number plate.

[jfman]

Police at our Dom’s door but he’s at Number 10. I wonder if a Durham resident has made a complaint?