Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

There isn't a rule saying you can go where you like after you have had the infection.

Was he going to work?

Originally Posted by Pierre

Was he going to work?

250 miles away is a hell of a commute.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's quite explicit what those rules state, it's not a Woolworths pick'n'mix where you select those rules you like and leave the ones you don't like.
Your admiration of Cummings' undoubted talents is clouding your judgment in this case as you didn't defend the other key individuals who transgressed the lockdown rules.

I've already said a few posts ago that I'm no fan of Cummings.

As to the other key individuals to whom you alluded, the Scottish MO did break the rules because she had no reasonable excuse to visit her 2nd home, unlike Cummings who was protecting his child.

What's the matter with you or are yo so blinded by your resentment of Cummings?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mythica

Well you've read it as you replied to it. Maybe read the thread before jumping in.

Yeah but I’m not convinced you understand.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Police have just arrested two Scottish guys that went 500 miles.............

was it these two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbNlMtqrYS0

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Yeah but I’m not convinced you understand.

Why is that?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Can't make it any easier for you than that, I'm afraid. Sorry.

Shame

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Originally Posted by Damien

250 miles away is a hell of a commute.

Is a maximum distance stipulated?

I have A neighbour that has been travelling the four corners of the nation throughout lockdown.

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Originally Posted by Mythica

Why is that?

Because you Don’t come across as if you do.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Shame

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Is a maximum distance stipulated?

I have A neighbour that has been travelling the four corners of the nation throughout lockdown.

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Because you Don’t come across as if you do.

Well explain why?

Originally Posted by Pierre

Is a maximum distance stipulated?

We already know he lives in London and if he had to return for work he can self-isolate at home. He doesn't need to go back and forth, he clearly cannot commute back and forth from Durham to Westminster daily.

I think this is getting a bit silly now. I don't quite understand why you're so defensive of him but we clearly don't agree, I think he broke the rules of the lockdown and advisors to the Government who helped design these rules should follow them.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mythica

Well explain why?

How do you expect me to explain it if you can’t?

No 10, tonight and digging their heels in here and who can blame them over a non-story.

Basically they rubbish the claims written in the Mirror and Guardian, calls them "Campaigning newspapers" and won't waste time answering questions to inaccurate stories written in them. Couldn't have said it any better myself, tell them to piss off Boris and co.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Pierre

How do you expect me to explain it if you can’t?

I think you've confused yourself and rather than just admitting it are now trying to skirt around the issue by blaming me.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

We already know he lives in London and if he had to return for work he can self-isolate at home. He doesn't need to go back and forth, he clearly cannot commute back and forth from Durham to Westminster daily.

I think this is getting a bit silly now. I don't quite understand why you're so defensive of him but we clearly don't agree, I think he broke the rules of the lockdown and advisors to the Government who helped design these rules should follow them.

It is getting silly, we can agree on that.

I’m not defensive of him so much, but I am defensive in so far as a media/political witch hunt that is unnecessary and boring, and I would love him to tell the media to go screw themselves.

I’m on record as saying the quickest way to make this go away would be to resign, but I’m happy if He doesn’t.

I am defensive Of him, in so far as he did what he thought was best for him and his family, and I would do the same. Any father on this forum is lying if they say otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Mythica

I think you've confused yourself and rather than just admitting it are now trying to skirt around the issue by blaming me.

I haven’t blamed you for anything.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Pierre

It is getting silly, we can agree on that.

I’m not defensive of him so much, but I am defensive in so far as a media/political witch hunt that is unnecessary and boring, and I would love him to tell the media to go screw themselves.

I’m on record as saying the quickest way to make this go away would be to resign, but I’m happy if He doesn’t.

I am defensive Of him, in so far as he did what he thought was best for him and his family, and I would do the same. Any father on this forum is lying if they say otherwise.

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I haven’t blamed you for anything.

Sigh. Let's get back to basics.

What was the problem with what I said?

Originally Posted by Mick

No 10, tonight and digging their heels in here and who can blame them over a non-story.

Basically they rubbish the claims written in the Mirror and Guardian, calls them "Campaigning newspapers" and won't waste time answering questions to inaccurate stories written in them. Couldn't have said it any better myself, tell them to piss off Boris and co.

What they're actually doing is dismissing it without an outright denial of the claims since they don't know if The Guardian and The Mirror are holding anything back.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I’m not defensive of him so much, but I am defensive in so far as a media/political witch hunt that is unnecessary and boring, and I would love him to tell the media to go screw themselves.

If we leave aside the rights/wrongs and perceptions of what he is accused of doing and talk about that media aspect. I think the media are probably in better touch with their readership here. You may feel it's unfair but notice how even the Tories traditional allies in the press are deserting them on this issue, I think the public is likely to be furious about it.

As you said most people would want to do what's best for their families but for them that has meant being kept away. Some times in very hard situations. Any perception that doesn't apply to those who made the rule is very toxic. If there was an exception that you can relocate to ensure you live near a support network then I don't think that's a rule that has been communicated clearly either.