Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures - Page 9

**Mick** · 23-05-2020, 21:15

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Whatever our views of having an exception for childcare, it did not exist when Dominic Cummings drove to Durham. No ifs, buts or maybes.

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Surely you must agree he broke the following, even if you sympathised with him doing so?
“If you live with others and you are the first in the household to have symptoms of coronavirus, then you must stay at home for 7 days, but all other household members who remain well must stay at home and not leave the house for 14 days.”

The NHS advice also states that: “If you or someone you live with has symptoms of coronavirus: do not leave your home for any reason – if you need food or medicine, order it online or by phone, or ask someone to deliver it to your home; do not have visitors in your home – including friends and family; do any exercise at home – you can use your garden, if you have one.”

Great, now do the section which highlights areas where you live with children.

Mythica · 23-05-2020, 21:16

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Originally Posted by nomadking

The HOUSEHOLD as a whole self-isolates, as the others could still be carrying it, without yet showing symptoms. What other household did they have contact with?

Most people wouldn't have the option of moving to a spare property whilst self-isolating. The advice has to be set out how it is likely to apply for MOST people.
They did it out of NECESSITY.

I never said otherwise and also didn't mention a spare property. I said they should isolate as much as possible away from the wife in the same house.

The one he presumably dropped the child at? Who as you say could not be showing symptoms yet but could still be carrying the virus.

They didn't do it out of necessity. If he was well enough to drive 250 miles, then he was well enough to stay at home. Worst case scenario is if he becomes too unwell then I'm sure with the position he holds, emergency care would have been put in place for the child.

1andrew1 · 23-05-2020, 21:24

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Originally Posted by Mick

Great, now do the section which highlights areas where you live with children.

I've just done it! Please don't shoot the messengr if you don't like the message.

**Mick** · 23-05-2020, 21:29

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I've just done it! Please don't shoot the messengr if you don't like the message.

I am not seeing the following.

"Living with children" section in any of your posts.

Sephiroth · 23-05-2020, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Mythica

I never said otherwise and also didn't mention a spare property. I said they should isolate as much as possible away from the wife in the same house.

The one he presumably dropped the child at? Who as you say could not be showing symptoms yet but could still be carrying the virus.

They didn't do it out of necessity. If he was well enough to drive 250 miles, then he was well enough to stay at home. Worst case scenario is if he becomes too unwell then I'm sure with the position he holds, emergency care would have been put in place for the child.

Do you have children? Is that (what you said above) how you would have behaved knowing what CV does? Wouldn't you put your children first?

**Damien** · 23-05-2020, 21:34

Sky story on those reports he made a second visit: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ports-11993601

It's very likely The Mirror had this planned when they published the story yesterday and were setting a trap....

**Mick** · 23-05-2020, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Mick

I am not seeing the following.

"Living with children" section in any of your posts.

Let me give you a hand....

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If you are living with children
Keep following this advice to the best of your ability, however, we are aware that not all these measures will be possible.

What we have seen so far is that children with coronavirus (COVID-19) appear to be less severely affected. It is nevertheless important to do your best to follow this guidance.

Mr K · 23-05-2020, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Damien

The Guardian is reporting an eyewitness saw him back in Durham after he was spotting in London recovered from the virus. Suggesting he went back there after coming back to London. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ockdown-claims

Torygraph running with that too now. The tide has turned for young Dominic as his lies unfold...

1andrew1 · 23-05-2020, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Mick

I am not seeing the following.

"Living with children" section in any of your posts.

Just to clarify matters - there were no separate sections for people's household status at the time that Dominic Cummings drove to Durham. Rules is rules, especially if you helped write them!

Yes, he may well have got them added two weeks later after the press asked about his relocation to Durham.

**Mick** · 23-05-2020, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Damien

Sky story on those reports he made a second visit: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ports-11993601

It's very likely The Mirror had this planned when they published the story yesterday and were setting a trap....

The Mirror (and many other media outlets) is gutter journalism at it's finest, where they demanding Campbell resign when he and Labour wrongly promoted WMD for their illegal Iraq war far far more serious than someone going to see his parents so they could look after his son?

1andrew1 · 23-05-2020, 21:43

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Originally Posted by Damien

Sky story on those reports he made a second visit: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ports-11993601

It's very likely The Mirror had this planned when they published the story yesterday and were setting a trap....

He was given the chance yesterday to do the honourable thing. They must have known that he felt he was above the law. Ooops.

**Damien** · 23-05-2020, 21:43

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Originally Posted by Mick

The Mirror (and many other media outlets) is gutter journalism at it's finest, where they demanding Campbell resign when he and Labour wrongly promoted WMD for their illegal Iraq war far far more serious than someone going to see his parents so they could look after his son?

Yes, The Iraq war has bad. That isn't really relevant to this debate though.

And now The Mirror are saying he had made more than one trip. Which certainly isn't self-isolation or within the rules not to travel between homes.

1andrew1 · 23-05-2020, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Torygraph running with that too now. The tide has turned for young Dominic as his lies unfold...

Never let it be said that I've never defended Dominic Cummings - Durham is a lovely city!

Mr K · 23-05-2020, 21:48

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Never let it be said that I've never defended Dominic Cummings - Durham is a lovely city!

Yeah I once went their on a Sixth Form jolly (long ago), drank a lot and fell in the river. Don't remember much else...

denphone · 23-05-2020, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Damien

Yes, The Iraq war has bad. That isn't really relevant to this debate though.

And now The Mirror are saying he had made more than one trip. Which certainly isn't self-isolation or within the rules not to travel between homes.

Exactly as it has nothing to do with the debate.