Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures

[jfman]

Considering it’s a “mild flu“, and indeed some (not me) take the view that large numbers experience no symptoms at all, it’s awfully bad luck for both of them to get the really bad version.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It undermines the whole effort to stop the virus spreading. If any doubts about following the rules are placed in people's minds - eg the Government doesn't follow its own advice so why should I? - then the R-rate will start rising and we'll have to return to a stricter lockdown.

What potentially makes Dominic Cummings different from Niall Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood is that Boris Johnson is dependent on Dominic Cummings.

He now needs to salvage Dominic Cummings' scant reputation by getting him to resign. Will he return like a bad penny? Doubtless, but Boris Johnson needs to send a clear message out to the country. And that message shouldn't be rules are just for little people.

l quote these words from the Health Secretary Matt Hancock when he heard about Niall Ferguson so it will be interesting to hear what he has to say about Dominic Cummings now.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said it was "extraordinary" and that he "took the right decision to resign".

He told Sky News that it was "just not possible" for Prof Ferguson to continue advising the government.

Mr Hancock said the social distancing rules "are there for everyone" and are "deadly serious".

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

l quote these words from the Health Secretary Matt Hancock when he heard about Niall Ferguson so it will be interesting to hear what he has to say about Dominic Cummings now.

Hands up who wants to present the Government's next CV-19 briefing?

[Carth]

That quote of the wifes account (by Hugh) reads like something lifted from a Catherine Cookson novel

. . is she a wannabe author or something?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

That quote of the wifes account (by Hugh) reads like something lifted from a Catherine Cookson novel

. . is she a wannabe author or something?

I too was thinking pretentious BS.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

[/B]Yes i'm also glad the family survived

I think it's safe to assume that we're all pleased no one died directly without having to state the bleedin' obvious.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I too was thinking pretentious BS.

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I think it's safe to assume that we're all pleased no one died directly without having to state the bleedin' obvious. But it's the indirect deaths that may result from this action that are a genuine concern.

Would you like a soap box to stand on

[Pierre]

I don’t have any opinion on the man himself.

However, precedence dictates that his position is untenable.

All he has to is resign, stay quiet for a few months, then he’ll back.

That’s pretty much what nearly every government minister does when they resign.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: Scotland’s Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood has just resigned, this is due to her position becoming untenable when on two occasions in the last week travelled twice to her holiday home, going against her own advice to Stay home.

https://news.sky.com/story/scotlands...kdown-11969073

Originally Posted by Chris

Delicious. The SNP machine spent all morning telling everyone she’d done nothing wrong, move along now, nothing to see here. Apparently the party that can do no wrong, got it wrong.

Do you think Dominic Cummings' position is tenable? The Conservative Party seems to be following the SNP rule book here.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The Conservative Party seems to be following the SNP rule book here.

The government have not said anything about it yet.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The government have not said anything about it yet.

Good point, it's allegedly all been via Laura Kuenssberg which if true is a cleverer approach.
We both agree on what will happen to Dominic Cummings though.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The government have not said anything about it yet.

Let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The government have not said anything about it yet.

The UK prime minister's office has issued a statement saying his chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, did not break any rules when he travelled to his family home even though he was suffering with the virus.

Here's the full statement:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52781481

"Owing to his wife being infected with suspected coronavirus and the high likelihood that he would himself become unwell, it was essential for Dominic Cummings to ensure his young child could be properly cared for. His sister and nieces had volunteered to help so he went to a house near to but separate from his extended family in case their help was needed. His sister shopped for the family and left everything outside.

At no stage was he or his family spoken to by the police about this matter, as is being reported. His actions were in line with coronavirus guidelines. Mr Cummings believes he behaved reasonably and legally."

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

The UK prime minister's office has issued a statement saying his chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, did not break any rules when he travelled to his family home even though he was suffering with the virus.

Here's the full statement:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52781481

So the facts are he did nothing illegal and broke no rules,Thanks for clearing that up Den

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Not according to the Government's guidelines. If you have CV-19 symptoms then the Government's clear instructions were to stay at home and self-isolate. The legislation was enacted very swiftly so may be imperfect and I don't know how prosecutable it is.

But Cummings' actions gives the impression that he feels rules are for little people.

He should now do the honourable thing and resign before the next Prime Minister's Questions.

I suspect that what's coming through here is your political sentiment rather than an objective view of a person/family conflicted between the letter of the law and the need to protect the family (children).

Seems to me that compassion and understanding is required here rather than witch hunt mentality.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I suspect that what's coming through here is your political sentiment rather than an objective view of a person/family conflicted between the letter of the law and the need to protect the family (children).

Seems to me that compassion and understanding is required here rather than witch hunt mentality.

The need to protect the family? They weren’t in danger any more or less than any other family self isolating for 14 days. The whole point of the guidance was so you could only spread it among yourselves.