VOD : Linear is old tech - on demand is the future

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If the terrestrial and pay TV channels are to survive in the future, they will have to pay more attention to the revenues side of their operations. ITV has taken measures to be less reliant on advertising, but even now, their woes continue when advertising revenues decline.

Despite some believing that pay tv channels will survive even with a reduction in advertising, I think this has its limits. There are only so many efficiences that you can make without leading to a decline in output.

To my mind, ITV's continuing difficulties tell me that traditional TV has its days numbered.

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20200506...#axzz6Leubj4ud

Yes, that certainly plays to your mindset, Old Boy.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If the terrestrial and pay TV channels are to survive in the future, they will have to pay more attention to the revenues side of their operations. ITV has taken measures to be less reliant on advertising, but even now, their woes continue when advertising revenues decline.

Despite some believing that pay tv channels will survive even with a reduction in advertising, I think this has its limits. There are only so many efficiences that you can make without leading to a decline in output.

To my mind, ITV's continuing difficulties tell me that traditional TV has its days numbered.

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20200506...#axzz6Leubj4ud

ITV may be struggling with a drop in Advertisement Revenue but the BBC won't be.

Whilst ads are an income stream for Pay TV channels the subscription money paid to view these channels will keep them going.

I would think those minor channels who pay VM to carry them and are free to air will be the first to go.

[OLD BOY]

Interestingly, Britbox UK and the ITV Hub are both performing well. This will concentrate minds not only of ITV but also other broadcasters. Clearly, the future is in streaming.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2020/05/mixe...sitive-on.html

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Interestingly, Britbox UK and the ITV Hub are both performing well. This will concentrate minds not only of ITV but also other broadcasters. Clearly, the future is in streaming.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2020/05/mixe...sitive-on.html

No announcement of giving up their Channel 3 licences I see. Clearly there's money to be made in linear broadcasting, in addition to other revenue sources like streaming.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

No announcement of giving up their Channel 3 licences I see. Clearly there's money to be made in linear broadcasting, in addition to other revenue sources like streaming.

Quite. For the time being, at least.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Interestingly, Britbox UK and the ITV Hub are both performing well. This will concentrate minds not only of ITV but also other broadcasters. Clearly, the future is in streaming.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2020/05/mixe...sitive-on.html

Meanwhile, ITV was upbeat about BritBox UK - while not providing numbers, it said it was seeing "good growth" in users taking a free trial and subscribing. It also confirmed the service would officially arrive on Freeview Play "shortly". Many smart TVs that support Freeview Play have already seen the BritBox app added to the device's app tray or app store.

ITV was equally upbeat about its the ITV Hub service, which recorded a 13% year-on-year growth of the number of registered accounts for the service.

Not sure how a growth in free services shows the future is in streaming?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not sure how a growth in free services shows the future is in streaming?

You could also ask how a decline in free TV audiences shows that the future includes TV channels.

You've only got to look at the US to see the way we will be going.

Thank you for answering my question with a question*, Socrates...

I could have, but strangely enough, I didn’t.

You could have answered my question, but not strangely enough, you didn't.

*not really...

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not sure how a growth in free services shows the future is in streaming?

I had Britbox for the initial free trial and cancelled , I've now got it again for the 6 months free trial but whilst watching it occasionly certainly won't continue past this period.

[oliver1948uk]

This article acknowledges the recent increase in TV viewing during the lockdown, both traditional and streamed. However, it draws attention to a minority who are struggling with the latest technology. One person's viewing had greatly reduced since buying a smart TV because of its complexity. Others wanted Netflix but couldn't understand how you joined. Some folk cannot understand modern remote controls so leave it to their partners. Others cannot cope with iPlayer and ITV Hub.

I am 72 and record on the V6 and use Netflix and Amazon Prime and have recently acquired a Chromecast to stream Disney+ from my phone BUT when I sit down I want it easy and relaxing. I find some modern technology is going in the opposite direction.

https://thenextweb.com/syndication/2...-inaccessible/

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

This article acknowledges the recent increase in TV viewing during the lockdown, both traditional and streamed. However, it draws attention to a minority who are struggling with the latest technology. One person's viewing had greatly reduced since buying a smart TV because of its complexity. Others wanted Netflix but couldn't understand how you joined. Some folk cannot understand modern remote controls so leave it to their partners. Others cannot cope with iPlayer and ITV Hub.

I am 72 and record on the V6 and use Netflix and Amazon Prime and have recently acquired a Chromecast to stream Disney+ from my phone BUT when I sit down I want it easy and relaxing. I find some modern technology is going in the opposite direction.

https://thenextweb.com/syndication/2...-inaccessible/

If you search for your Netflix and Amazon programmes in the 'search and discover' part of your menu, you can bookmark the show and it will appear in 'My Shows'. That way, accessing your streamed programmes is as easy as accessing your recordings.

[Mr K]

I think a vaccine will be the future, forget streaming, it'll be of little relevance.

[oliver1948uk]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If you search for your Netflix and Amazon programmes in the 'search and discover' part of your menu, you can bookmark the show and it will appear in 'My Shows'. That way, accessing your streamed programmes is as easy as accessing your recordings.

What I am finding is that the picture quality from my phone by WiFi to the Chromecast plugged into the TV is, amazingly, better than from the fully wired V6. As Disney+ is not on the V6 and I rarely record premium channels it questions the need for the V6.

It is easier to get the apps going by casting from my phone (strangely turning on Chromecast by pressing the cast button automatically turns on my pre-smart TV and selects the correct input) so I use my phone for all three streaming services as well as iPlayer.

Not yet ready to ditch recorded linear programmes, however. One reason is that I must have subtitles. Once you get away from the major linear channels, subtitles are somewhat hit and miss. For example, though iPlayer has them for recorded programmes it doesn't for live programmes or if you use the 'start from the beginning' facility.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

What I am finding is that the picture quality from my phone by WiFi to the Chromecast plugged into the TV is, amazingly, better than from the fully wired V6. As Disney+ is not on the V6 and I rarely record premium channels it questions the need for the V6.

It is easier to get the apps going by casting from my phone (strangely turning on Chromecast by pressing the cast button automatically turns on my pre-smart TV and selects the correct input) so I use my phone for all three streaming services as well as iPlayer.

Not yet ready to ditch recorded linear programmes, however. One reason is that I must have subtitles. Once you get away from the major linear channels, subtitles are somewhat hit and miss. For example, though iPlayer has them for recorded programmes it doesn't for live programmes or if you use the 'start from the beginning' facility.

This is something i noticed regarding skyq my netflix, itvhub etc pic quality is better from my nvidia shield than skyq, however live channel wise skyq wins hands down for pic quality.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

What I am finding is that the picture quality from my phone by WiFi to the Chromecast plugged into the TV is, amazingly, better than from the fully wired V6. As Disney+ is not on the V6 and I rarely record premium channels it questions the need for the V6.

It is easier to get the apps going by casting from my phone (strangely turning on Chromecast by pressing the cast button automatically turns on my pre-smart TV and selects the correct input) so I use my phone for all three streaming services as well as iPlayer.

Not yet ready to ditch recorded linear programmes, however. One reason is that I must have subtitles. Once you get away from the major linear channels, subtitles are somewhat hit and miss. For example, though iPlayer has them for recorded programmes it doesn't for live programmes or if you use the 'start from the beginning' facility.

Yes, I am amazed that your Chronecast method gives you a better picture. As a matter of interest, have you set your picture settings on the V6 to the UHD setting (assuming you have a UHD TV, of course)?

Like you, I am not yet ready to ditch the linear channels, but my reason is simply that there are some programmes that would not be accessible through streaming only at present. I would expect that to change before too much longer, however. I did work out what I would be missing if I cut the cable a couple of years ago, and the TV Player appeared to fill most of the gaps, but this turned out to be a disappointment and I gave up with TV Player. Given that it is taking services off its platform now, I think perhaps I'm not the only one to be disappointed with it.

I look forward to the day when I can get all of my programme needs through VM without the need to subscribe to all those rubbish TV channels I don't use and simply access their comprehensive on demand selection. Provided it gives me what I need (particularly the ability to watch stuff I've bookmarked for up to a year), this could save me a sum of money. Hopefully, VM will step up to the plate and let me do this, with all the new streaming services provided from launch. The failure so far to acquire the rights to bring us Disney +, however, is not a good sign.