Coronavirus (OLD) - Page 211

OLD BOY · 10-05-2020, 19:24

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Originally Posted by denphone

Germany's Coronavirus transmission rate rises again.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-corona...e-1/a-53383279

A clear warning there that it would be unwise to lessen the lockdown too much imo.

This is exactly what I have been saying, Den. Release the lockdown measures and the number of Covid cases increases. It doesn't really matter WHEN the lockdown is ended. Whenever that happens, cases will rise again until such time as either herd immunity is achieved or we have the vaccine. The lockdown only slows the number of cases but doesn't stop them altogether - it simply delays the inevitable.

South Korea has also seen a rise in cases following the relaxation of their lockdown.

nomadking · 10-05-2020, 19:39

What a lockdown should achieve is a reduction in the number of active cases out there, so when it is relaxed or ended there is less opportunity for it spread widely again. Those not able, or more likely unwillingly to follow lockdown are the ones spreading it around. Each time it transfers from one person to another, the clock resets and starts from zero. Without transfers, after a period of X(4?) weeks it would disappear completely. With each transmission the X weeks starts again, prolonging the overall period.

Henkesghost · 10-05-2020, 19:40

Wee Nicola isn't having it. Scotland stays in the hoose

papa smurf · 10-05-2020, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost

Wee Nicola isn't having it. Scotland stays in the hoose

Until the furlough money gets cut off from central Government

Henkesghost · 10-05-2020, 19:51

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Until the furlough money gets cut off from central Government

Makes it a little awkward as I work for the forces but am in Scotland

jfman · 10-05-2020, 19:53

If/when the body count goes up furlough will be extended. Win-win for Scotland as the English get to be guinea pigs. Scotland can follow in three weeks if measures demonstrated to be safe.

Pierre · 10-05-2020, 19:58

To be honest nothing really has changed.

**Hugh** · 10-05-2020, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Pierre

To be honest nothing really has changed.

Mitch Benn summed it up

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Nothing has changed except the things which have changed except they haven’t yet but they might, or might not, as long as we don’t change anything.

Pierre · 10-05-2020, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Mitch Benn summed it up

Indeed, but in reality all that has changed is that you can now go out as much as you want as long as you socially distance, everything else is the same.

There will be a new alert system ( pretty much like the old terror alert system they had)

If all goes well some primary school classes may reopen from June 1st, and all stays well some bars / restaurants etc may open in July.

But only if death/infection rates continue to fall.

mrmistoffelees · 10-05-2020, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Pierre

To be honest nothing really has changed.

From Wednesday

People can go and sit in a park all day long now if they wish
I can now go out for either a drive in my car or a ride on my motorbike if I wish

Big changes from no unnecessary travel/not being able to sit in a park or down by the river

Just my perspective

richard s · 10-05-2020, 20:27

The epidemic has to run it's course across the world before it is beaten... because it will creep back into other countries and start all over again. Country to country travel has to be banned for at least a full year.

Henkesghost · 10-05-2020, 20:33

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

From Wednesday

People can go and sit in a park all day long now if they wish
I can now go out for either a drive in my car or a ride on my motorbike if I wish

Big changes from no unnecessary travel/not being able to sit in a park or down by the river

Just my perspective

Agree I think there has been a few significant changes in England including encouraging people back to work if unable to work at home.

Pierre · 10-05-2020, 20:34

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

From Wednesday

People can go and sit in a park all day long now if they wish
I can now go out for either a drive in my car or a ride on my motorbike if I wish

Big changes from no unnecessary travel/not being able to sit in a park or down by the river

Just my perspective

From my perspective nothing has changed to any degree, I was already going out as much as wanted. Although I admit I was in a privileged position based on my location

mrmistoffelees · 10-05-2020, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Pierre

From my perspective nothing has changed to any degree, I was already going out as much as wanted. Although I admit I was in a privileged position based on my location

Quite the rebel.

jfman · 10-05-2020, 20:38

Essentially the Government in England are spending the next three weeks watering down the “stay home, protect the NHS, save lives” message.

Employers won’t have done risk assessments, made adjustments or read and understood guidance (when published) for any meaningful changes to take place immediately.