01-05-2020, 09:03
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by pip08456
So then you'd be quite happy if Oxford exported any vaccine/treatment before treating UK citizens? If not which UK citizens get treated before the vaccine/treatment is exported?
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Woah, settle back down.
In my limited imagination I’m sure the most vulnerable would receive it first whilst a plan for export would be developed. Then other prioritised groups would receive it and I think then it would be sent around the world
Given Trump’s ignorance I can’t see him having any interest in other countries getting it until all Americans have access to a vaccine.
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01-05-2020, 09:19
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Re: Coronavirus
In your limited imagination do you think that if a vaccine was found only one country would manufacture it?
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01-05-2020, 09:26
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Re: Coronavirus
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In your limited imagination do you think that if a vaccine was found only one country would manufacture it?
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I think if America found it first Trump would ensure it was kept in-house until his country was safe first.
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01-05-2020, 09:51
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Re: Coronavirus
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I think if America found it first Trump would ensure it was kept in-house until his country was safe first.
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And then sell it to the rest of the world at an inflated ruinous price.
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01-05-2020, 10:03
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Re: Coronavirus
I think that’s an absolute certainty.
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01-05-2020, 10:50
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Re: Coronavirus
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I think if America found it first Trump would ensure it was kept in-house until his country was safe first.
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Difficult when research is being shared worldwide.
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01-05-2020, 10:55
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Re: Coronavirus
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Difficult when research is being shared worldwide.
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If American big pharma can screw a profit out of this they will, if any the rest of the words countries find a solution i believe the formula will be given freely for the good of mankind.
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01-05-2020, 10:56
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Re: Coronavirus
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Difficult when research is being shared worldwide.
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Difficult perhaps but not impossible when it comes to Trump's infinite arrogance.
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01-05-2020, 11:16
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Re: Coronavirus
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Difficult when research is being shared worldwide.
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But that one is being managed in New York...
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01-05-2020, 12:05
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Re: Coronavirus
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This was what I found most worrying:
For instance, if a US firm were to come up with a coronavirus vaccine, President Donald Trump could — under the Defense Production Act — stop it from being exported until there were sufficient doses for America’s own needs.
IMO this is exactly what he would do and sums up why he's so dangerous. Oxford seems to be doing well with developing a vaccine/treatment, I really hope they beat America to it.
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Surely, it is the duty of every country to put its own population first, be that country China, the UK or USA?
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01-05-2020, 12:10
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Re: Coronavirus
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Surely, it is the duty of every country to put its own population first, be that country China, the UK or USA?
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I would think that's correct, as is the duty to ensure the safety and welfare of its citizens . . . which is why we're still flying people 'back home' from all corners of the world 
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01-05-2020, 12:11
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Re: Coronavirus
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Surely, it is the duty of every country to put its own population first, be that country China, the UK or USA?
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Absolutely but not to the detriment of other countries.
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01-05-2020, 12:21
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Re: Coronavirus
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Absolutely but not to the detriment of other countries.
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It's like queuing at a supermarket, you have to wait until the customer in front has been served until you get your turn.
When we've served 'our' customers, we'll serve theirs
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01-05-2020, 12:39
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Re: Coronavirus
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But that one is being managed in New York...
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Yes but, no but, yes but.
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01-05-2020, 13:28
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by pip08456
So then you'd be quite happy if Oxford exported any vaccine/treatment before treating UK citizens? If not which UK citizens get treated before the vaccine/treatment is exported?
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Oxford should release the formula/spec (whatever it is for a vaccine) to everyone so that every capable factory can make it at scale. No need for U.K production capacity to be used for anyone else but the U.K.
It would be important to beat the Americans to it in that case if their plan is to withhold both the work behind the vaccine rather than simply any vaccines created. There is a moral duty for whichever research team finds the successful one to tell everyone else how they did it, it's contemptible for Trump to withhold it.
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