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[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Nah. No view, Pip other than the man's a total arse.

We agree on that then.

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Originally Posted by jfman

There's no need to quote me if you have no meaningful response. I get that you don't appreciate criticism of the Government, however if the evidence demonstrates that the current response fails us both in terms of health and economics do not find yourself surprised to read me continue to make those points.

As usual you are totally wrong again. I have no afilliation to this or any other Government over the last 40 yrs or so.

The only reason I voted this time was that a party existed that would do what I voted for last time i.e. pull us out of the (then EEC) EU. I have not voted nor supported any party between those 2 votes.

So NO! I don't give a shit about any Government nor what they do. In the last 40 odd years there has never once been a political party that would change anything for me.

Enough of politics, I'm not interested. Broken records though normally get thrown out eventually.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Broken records though normally get thrown out eventually.

True.

[pip08456]

How true this is,

[Sephiroth]

Brilliant!

I suspect this pandemic is being used to bury news because it's the only subject mentioned by the media.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by pip08456

How true this is,

That seems to have come from or repeated by Turning Point UK, the offshoot of a very right wing US organisation that has very high profile backers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Point_USA

I'm not saying that you shouldn't criticise media when it's due, you just need to be aware of where the criticism is coming from as well.

[nomadking]

From 2019 report presented to Parliament.

Planning for reasonable worst-case scenarios can present challenges in
communicating risk, as they are not necessarily the most informative
scenarios for businesses and the public. In some cases they have been
counterproductive. For example, during the 2009 pandemic influenza
outbreak, communication of the reasonable worst-case scenario (that
65,000 people in the UK could die) led to inaccurate press coverage.2
In addition, using extreme, but unlikely, scenarios and inadequately
communicating more likely scenarios can be detrimental to trust in the
risk assessment procedure.36 Previous reports have suggested that the
Government should communicate ‘most probable’ scenarios to better inform
the public about the likely risks. However, despite the NRR being intended
for a public audience rather than Category 1 and 2 responders with a
statutory responsibility for emergency planning (Box 2), the risk information
is based directly on the worst-case scenarios in the NRA.2

So this report and the others are just yet another example of the garbage and nonsense from the media. The things reported in there are not that secret and have been mentioned for more than 10 years(ie under Labour).
Report from May 2016

The current main stockpile includes some twenty-plus products. It is based primarily on the
assessed risk of an infectious-disease pandemic and of a bioterrorist attack (in the NRA), and
on whether the supplies are generally available in the NHS. Only those which are not usually
available are stockpiled. The total replacement value is over £100 million, so there is quite a
considerable stockpile available for use in the UK.

[Taf]

The recording of the number of people who have died with coronavirus is being investigated after a Welsh health board failed to report numbers daily.

Betsi Cadwaladr health board reported 84 deaths in the north Wales area on Thursday.

It made it look like Wales had seen the biggest daily jump in confirmed deaths to date - 110 - but it included Betsi's figures which were for a whole month.

The health board said the delay was due to issues with its reporting system.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

That seems to have come from or repeated by Turning Point UK, the offshoot of a very right wing US organisation that has very high profile backers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Point_USA

I'm not saying that you shouldn't criticise media when it's due, you just need to be aware of where the criticism is coming from as well.

Not in this case, Ben. It could have been written by any witty UK observer who understands the left wing bias of the notes institutions.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Not in this case, Ben. It could have been written by any witty UK observer who understands the left wing bias of the notes institutions.

The WhatsApp screenshot has come from Tim Montgomerie today - the Turning Point tweet is from 3 days ago.

The fact that it's specifically aimed at the left wing media but shared by those affiliated with the right wing media and politics is in itself bias which is what my point is. Bias works in both directions, and is dangerous without context.

[Julian]

So what?

It's completely on point.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

The WhatsApp screenshot has come from Tim Montgomerie today - the Turning Point tweet is from 3 days ago.

The fact that it's specifically aimed at the left wing media but shared by those affiliated with the right wing media and politics is in itself bias which is what my point is. Bias works in both directions, and is dangerous without context.

It's the left wing bias of the media, particularly TV media, that's dangerous. The true context is their disrespect of the referendum result and the GE result.

It doesn't matter who wrote that piece - it hit the spot exactly.

On the other hand, it does no harm to reveal the origin, which is what you did.

[pip08456]

Some people have no sense of humour.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Some people have no sense of humour.

Lefties, usually.

I think it's entirely right that the Guvmin should take a stab at testing the vaccines on offer. Clearly the scientific advisors have endorsed this and we mustn't miss a trick here.

Also this latest press persecution of Cummings and his sitting in on Sage meetings is a disgrace. If he was interfering, there would have been public resignations from this echelon group.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Some people have no sense of humour.

Yep, I too was wondering if the lock down was having the effect of numbing the funny bone


oh, and I'm the same as pip, no political affiliation for decades and if something is funny, it matters not who wrote it or who it is about, it's funny