08-03-2020, 19:33
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Re: Smart meters
I still feel that the ulterior motive is to allow companies to charge different tariffs at different times of the day or week.
Higher rates during peak demand periods, lower at night and the weekends.
The meters will show that you are on a different tariff so pushing users to change their usage characteristics. A but like the old Economy 7 system, but without separate sockets.
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08-03-2020, 19:38
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Re: Smart meters
There will be no smart meter at my hourse until the law forces me.
Ive somehow managed to survive without one for 30+ years, I think I manage ok.
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09-03-2020, 00:23
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Re: Smart meters
They're not that smart at all, we've had one for about 6 months (not my idea but her indoors, you know how it is) . . . anyway, in all that time it hasn't picked a winning horse 
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09-03-2020, 10:38
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Re: Smart meters
Well since our meter was fitted our usage has increased from 1800kWh/year to over 3000kWh/year. They tested the meter and it was reading 10% high so replaced, the new one could be worse but we need more sunny days to get comparable readings to past (wife has daily reading from grid/gas/SPV generation for last 8 years or so).
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09-03-2020, 10:43
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Re: Smart meters
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Quote from SnoopZ: So true did you have to have it or did you ask for one, surely it costs to run the meter even if its batteries you have to buy?
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The electricity one is powered from the company side so you don't pay for its consumption. Don't know about the gas smart meter as we still have a traditional one.
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I bet the meter doesn't make you use less electricity or gas?
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No difference, we use what we need and just minimise. For example I have a 2Kw main oven and a smaller 1.3Kw worktop oven/grill which I use unless the food is too big to go in it. Only then do I use the larger one.
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09-03-2020, 14:44
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Re: Smart meters
We have found that unless you have your electricity and Gas points near to each other they cant install both so we only have a smart meter for the electricity, not the gas.
They cant communicate.
The in home display panel has been helpful for seeing how much everything costs, especially since getting a mighty big fish tank in the house.
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09-03-2020, 23:13
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Re: Smart meters
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Originally Posted by Taf
We had a scheduled power outage of an hour or so. Next door were away on holiday. When they came home, their fridge and freezer were minging as the smart meter did not turn the power back on after the outage.
I'm not sure if this was a fault, or how these meters work.
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Nothing to do with the smart meter, RCD probably tripped when the power went back on due to surges; that’s the problem with the current IET regs where all circuits have RCDs
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19-03-2020, 13:11
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Originally Posted by Paul
There will be no smart meter at my hourse until the law forces me.
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Good for you mate.......
Alot of people who have these ARE SEEING HIGHER BILLS!!
Remember: These are not to help the consumer,THEY ARE TO HELP THEM!!!!!!!!
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24-03-2020, 14:39
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Re: Smart meters
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Nothing to do with the smart meter, RCD probably tripped when the power went back on due to surges; that’s the problem with the current IET regs where all circuits have RCDs
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All trips were ON, it was just the smart meter that had failed to reset. It took an techie visit to get it to work again.
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27-03-2020, 19:26
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Re: Smart meters
Can't imagine there are going to be many meters inspected in the coming months. They'll just have to rely on our non smart honesty 
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27-03-2020, 21:21
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Re: Smart meters
I read mine every month, takes all of 5 minutes, not really a hardship.
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28-03-2020, 00:57
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Re: Smart meters
I also read mine every month I don't want any of this smart meter bollocks, I want to be in control and that is very very easy with Bulb, I logged in the other day and I had a banner message saying I should reduce my monthly bill from £79 to £69, eon would never have done that.
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28-03-2020, 01:32
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Re: Smart meters
I’m with Bulb, and have Smart Meters (from when I was with Npower) - they dropped mine from £99 to £93..
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21-04-2020, 18:48
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Re: Smart meters
I spotted this when checking Openreach FTTC cab status.
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22-04-2020, 10:54
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Re: Smart meters
Well our usage is still way up on pre-smart meter even with our solar panels giving record generation. Not exactly sure how to proceed. Heating, hot water (other than shower) and cooking are all gas. Meter people say it's our inverter using all the power, solar people (not installers - gone broke) say that's not possible as while inverter needs AC present it uses (mostly) DC and either is working (which it is) or isn't. And why this jump exactly at moment smart meter installed.
Maybe need to get Which? involved.
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