20-03-2020, 17:01
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Re: Coronavirus
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A year isnt exactly a few minutes. 
I dont see how it would be practical to follow the current "advice" for a year.
Business would collapse, and how would we afford to bail out the owners, the money has to come from taxes, and they are going to take a large hit if people have no jobs anymore etc to pay tax. People will get fed up, then angry, then the riots will start. 
People keep comparing it to the "spirit of the war".
In the war period you still had pubs open, plays, concerts etc, you could still go out. |
But they didn’t go out to where the bombs were dropping, which is the equivalent of going to social gatherings (except this time it wouldn’t be the ones at the bombing sites who were harmed, but those they met afterwards).
Also, there were draconian war-time laws and restrictions on personal liberties, including movement and transportation - often the people (not you) who invoke "the blitz spirit" only remember the working together for a common goal, not the rationing, black-outs, children evacuees, black-market spivs, conscription (on the Home Front, such as the Women’s Land Army, the Bevin Boys), the 60,000 dead and 86,000 seriously injured from the aerial bombing, etc..
To quote from the Imperial War Museum site
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VE Day found Britain exhausted, drab and in poor shape, but justly proud of its unique role in gaining the Allied victory.
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Surely we should learn from that, not just repeat it.
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20-03-2020, 17:13
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Re: Coronavirus
Now this is a good idea, I hope other similar companies follow suit.
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20-03-2020, 17:17
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Hugh
But they didn’t go out to where the bombs were dropping, which is the equivalent of going to social gatherings (except this time it wouldn’t be the ones at the bombing sites who were harmed, but those they met afterwards).
Also, there were draconian war-time laws and restrictions on personal liberties, including movement and transportation - often the people (not you) who invoke "the blitz spirit" only remember the working together for a common goal, not the rationing, black-outs, children evacuees, black-market spivs, conscription (on the Home Front, such as the Women’s Land Army, the Bevin Boys), the 60,000 dead and 86,000 seriously injured from the aerial bombing, etc..
To quote from the Imperial War Museum site
Surely we should learn from that, not just repeat it.
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VE Day found Britain exhausted, drab and in poor shape, but justly proud of its unique role in gaining the Allied victory
This time around exhausted drab and in poor shape is our starting position.
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20-03-2020, 17:24
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Re: Coronavirus
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Last edited by denphone; 20-03-2020 at 17:34.
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20-03-2020, 17:48
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Re: Coronavirus
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VE Day found Britain exhausted, drab and in poor shape, but justly proud of its unique role in gaining the Allied victory
This time around exhausted drab and in poor shape is our starting position.
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Not everyone lives near Grimsby/Cleethorpes...
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20-03-2020, 18:04
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Re: Coronavirus
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Not everyone lives near Grimsby/Cleethorpes...
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No some poor folk live in Leeds 
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20-03-2020, 18:11
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Re: Coronavirus
BREAKING: UK Government orders mandatory closure of all pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants in the UK.
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20-03-2020, 18:11
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Re: Coronavirus
Bars, clubs, resturants etc to close from tonight.
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20-03-2020, 18:13
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Re: Coronavirus
Night clubs, theatres, gyms, cinemas and leisure centures must also close on the same timescale.
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20-03-2020, 18:19
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Re: Coronavirus
Government to pay 80% of wages for employees not working, up to £2,500 a month, Chancellor Rishi Sunak says
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20-03-2020, 18:21
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Re: Coronavirus
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Night clubs, theatres, gyms, cinemas and leisure centures must also close on the same timescale.
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I don't use any of those but it's a big change for many,hope the staff are all getting paid by HM GOV.
just seen Hugh's post so that's a relief
How long before panic buying of booze begins.
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20-03-2020, 18:43
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Re: Coronavirus
So in these last few days the Prime Minister and the chancellor has basically nationalised the economy.
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20-03-2020, 18:44
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Re: Coronavirus
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I don't use any of those but it's a big change for many,hope the staff are all getting paid by HM GOV.
just seen Hugh's post so that's a relief
How long before panic buying of booze begins.
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Bet there's plenty of Corona!
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20-03-2020, 18:47
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Re: Coronavirus
627 deaths from Italy today. On an uncontrolled growth rate this could be 1,000 a day in 2 or 3 days.
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20-03-2020, 18:49
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Re: Coronavirus
White wine was depleted in Sainsbury's this afternoon. Spirits holding up well. 
At least there were a few veggies available. No spuds or sweet potatoes though, plenty of loose broccoli.
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