UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[Sephiroth]

How nice, Taf.

Originally Posted by Taf

The EU has announced that any materials or equipment that could be used against the coronavirus cannot be exported outside the EU without specific permission to do so by the EU.

And what if non-EU countries decided to respond in kind?

Have you a link?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Have you a link?

Possibly

https://www.ft.com/content/36fac94a-...d-da70cff6e4d3

[jfman]

I don't think any country experiencing a potential shortage is going to routinely export limited supplies to other countries.

[jonbxx]

Here's a link on the EU restrictions on export of equipment if this helps - https://www.politico.eu/article/coro...cal-equipment/

Germany got a slap on the wrist for not allowing exports of PPE to Italy apparently.

Lots of countries are restricting exports it seems - https://www.worldecr.com/news/corona...ng-group-says/ . The UK maintains a list of drugs updated weekly that cannot be exported based on domestic need (link) It seems that when push comes to shove, you look after your own first.

[jfman]

It's the minimum anyone expects is that the state looks after them.

Nobody can expect the demands of a supranational institution to take priority over the State’s responsibility to protect and defend its citizens.

Restrictions may well apply at the EU level for the time being, but if things get serious enough you can be certain that domestic needs will triumph. As has been noted, even before we left the EU the UK Gov kept a list of pharmaceuticals that may not be exported where domestic supply needs to be protected. It is high time that more states than just the UK woke up to the risks of stretching supply chains across international frontiers.

Of course the inexorable logic of the EU project is that it become a single State, so these issues cease to be relevant. Doubtless when the inquest begins some time next year the Brussels elite will exclaim that the solution to the problem is ‘more Europe’ - they always do.

[Sephiroth]

Alternatively, the separate EU countries, or at least the people, will see how irrelevant to then Brussels was in dealing with this crisis.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Alternatively, the separate EU countries, or at least the people, will see how irrelevant to then Brussels was in dealing with this crisis.

Apart from this site which includes details on;

• Guidance on health measures at Schengen borders
• Advice for airlines
• Advice for air passengers and their rights
• Alleviation of airline slot usage obligations
• Advice for rail and maritime operators
• International health response through the European Centre for Disease Control including daily summaries
• Data sharing through the Early Warning and Response System
• Joint procurement of medical supplies
• Emergency funding through Horizon 2020 and other programs for research into coronavirus worth over €200million
• Cofunding repatriation flights
• €400million for global preparedness
• €25billion on structural funding to deal with the effects of the outbreak going foward

[Sephiroth]

My take on the above is that we're doing more or less exactly the same without having to take any orders from the EU.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

My take on the above is that we're doing more or less exactly the same without having to take any orders from the EU.

Well, we're still in the transition period so we're golden for now. We will lose the international epidemiological and scientific cooperation, structural funding and the critical mass to effectively procure large volumes of equipment and supplies in January but that's what we voted for I guess

[1andrew1]

Few can argue with such an approach - industry has insufficient capacity to adapt to no-deal or a Canadian-style deal.

Brexit transition deadline in doubt as talks called off
The next round of Brexit negotiations has been cancelled as expectation grows in Brussels and London that the standstill transition period will be extended beyond its December 2020 deadline owing to coronavirus disruption.
In a statement on Tuesday, the British government said: “we will not formally be convening negotiating work strands” on Wednesday as planned, although it intended to publish a draft free trade agreement “in the near future”.
Boris Johnson is publicly committed to winding up the transition period at the end of the year — his government would have to change UK law to extend it — but negotiators on both sides believe a delay is coming.

https://www.ft.com/content/14232572-...d-da70cff6e4d3

[jfman]

It's a common sense approach. Tens of billions, if not more, will be wiped off our GDP with Coronavirus. Hundreds of thousands more unemployed and the last thing the markets want or need right now is even greater uncertainty.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

It's a common sense approach. Tens of billions, if not more, will be wiped off our GDP with Coronavirus. Hundreds of thousands more unemployed and the last thing the markets want or need right now is even greater uncertainty.

But Johnson obtained his majority by "getting brexit done". He won't want to, but he will have to extend the transitional period out of necessity.

[Sephiroth]

Barnier & co have nothing to do with Coronavirus. Therefore I see no reason why negotiations cannot continue and see no reason for extension.