Coronavirus (OLD)

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, they have - only essential visitors.

My son went in today (kept a safe distance from Nanna), and set up a tablet so we (and the rest of the family) can Skype her.

We’re not home yet - still in Orlando airport, awaiting our flight home in 3 and a bit hours (hopefully).

What's it like in Orlando (I have a friend who emigrated there to be with her husband)? We spoke yesterday and she said she was a bit frightened.

These are tomorrows headlines and it does say that visits to care homes will now have to stop:

Originally Posted by Paul

Just curious, but what would be the plan if your flight doesnt happen ?

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Notts total is up from yesterday ;

Plan B - make it up as we go along...

But seriously, we’d find a local hotel/AirBnB, and then find alternative flights, however long it takes - contacted a few local AirBnB homes, and they’re happy to do it on a day by day basis (as their business is tanking at the moment - we cancelled 2 of the 3 days we had booked in St Augustine, and the night we had planned in Titusville, and got refunds for the nights not used - AirBnB policy for the Coronavirus crisis); then claim it back on Holiday Insurance under the Curtailment clause (along with the flight change costs - expecting some full and frank discussions in this...).

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

What's it like in Orlando (I have a friend who emigrated there to be with her husband)? We spoke yesterday and she said she was a bit frightened.

These are tomorrows headlines and it does say that visits to care homes will now have to stop:

Don't know about Orlando - we drove straight from St Augustine to Orlando International Airport; the airport itself is heaving (even more than usual, according to the TSA staff), and International Arrivals is chaos, with queues of 5-6 hours to get out the airport.

[RichardCoulter]

As long as you get home safely, that's the main thing.

So, the latest plan is for us all to hide in our homes, but seems to have a bit of a flaw .....

However, this approach comes with a major problem - there is no exit strategy.

Without the immunity that would build up if people were infected, then cases would soar as soon as measures are lifted.

The report said these could need to be in place until a vaccine is available, which could take up to 18 months.

In what universe could we hide away like this for 18 months ?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Paul

So, the latest plan is for us all to hide in our homes, but seems to have a bit of a flaw .....


In what universe could we hide away like this for 18 months ?

l saw this 18 months mentioned in a article l read this morning as 3 months isolation is hard enough one suspects for many.

18 months would be impossible.

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by denphone

l saw this 18 months mentioned in a article l read this morning as 3 months isolation is hard enough one suspects for many.

18 months would be impossible.

I agree, on Monday Boris said 12 weeks.

[nomadking]

Occurred to me that if people on the same street/road are going to have home deliveries of groceries, it would be more efficient to coordinate for the same day and time slot. Eg Having a van turn up on the same road on 3 successive days or hourly timeslots would be inefficient. More deliveries could be made per day.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Ken W

I agree, on Monday Boris said 12 weeks.

l am no expert on anything but personally the 12 weeks self isolation is a minimum period of self isolation as it would not surprise me one bit if the period of self isolation gets extended in time.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by denphone

l am no expert on anything but personally the 12 weeks self isolation is a minimum period of self isolation as it would not surprise me one bit if the period of self isolation gets extended in time.

They're not talking about self-isolation for 12 weeks or 18 months. Self-isolation is for households with somebody who has symptoms and is for 2 weeks.
Link

Anyone with a fever or persistent cough should stay at home for seven days if they live alone or 14 days if they live with others. Anyone who lives with someone displaying coronavirus symptoms should also stay at home for 14 days. People who have to isolate themselves should ask others for help
...

By the weekend, those with the most serious health conditions should be largely shielded from social contact for 12 weeks

The self-isolation period might end up being a bit longer if you actually end up getting it. So it might be advisable to plan for up to 3 weeks.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by nomadking

They're not talking about self-isolation for 12 weeks or 18 months. Self-isolation is for households with somebody who has symptoms and is for 2 weeks.
Link

The self-isolation period might end up being a bit longer if you actually end up getting it. So it might be advisable to plan for up to 3 weeks.

l am talking about the 12 week self isolation period which the prime minister and his experts stated yesterday for all those all 70 or over and all those with serious underlying medical conditions.

[RichardCoulter]

BBC News:

Those deemed to be exceptionally at risk according to their NHS records will be receiving a letter in about a week telling them what they must do.

All those who get a flu jab for medical reasons must isolate themselves immediately.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by denphone

l am talking about the 12 week self isolation period which the prime minister and his experts stated yesterday for all those all 70 or over and all those with serious underlying medical conditions.

No they didn't. As my link and quote shows, they referred to no social contact, not always staying at home. The further advice is to limit shopping trips.

By the weekend, those with the most serious health conditions should be largely shielded from social contact for 12 weeks

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by denphone

l am no expert on anything but personally the 12 weeks self isolation is a minimum period of self isolation as it would not surprise me one bit if the period of self isolation gets extended in time.

You are correct about 12 weeks being the min and as you will no doubt be extended

[Anonymouse]

The government's advising us to stay off work.

Yeah, like that's gonna fly. Ever hear of these things called "bills", Mr. Johnson? They're what we ordinary working stiffs have to pay so we a) don't starve and b) don't get thrown out onto the street. To do that, we need to earn money to pay them. To do that, we need to work. To do that, we need to go to work.

Feel free to stop me if this is all too obvious, sir.

As for working from home - contrary to the opinion of many people who work in offices and can in theory work online, some of us do not. I work in a warehouse. How can working at home be an option?! Travelling on public transport is apparently also a no-no - but I have no other practical means of getting to work, because it's ten miles from home!

Get real, you prat!

[tweetiepooh]

Limiting shopping trips could be interesting since all delivery slots round here are taken for next 3 weeks. We have some food in freezer and some rice/pasta but not for that long.
Quick check online and rice prices have increased dramatically if available at all.