UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
04-02-2020, 22:18
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
If the perfidious Varadkar loses the Irish election this week,
then our future relationship with the EU might have been done a favour.
Just need Macro to fall into the Seine or something. He's up to same tricks as Varadkar - playing to hise public.
And there are still people in this thread who think the EU was/is a worthy institution and that a sovereign UK was/is unimportant.
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04-02-2020, 22:42
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
It’s fascinating. Brussels bring out a PowerPoint slide with their proposals which was just.....blimey I see that shit every day.
Then, the message coming out of the government is.......trade deal? Yes.
But not at any cost, and we’ll just junk it if we don’t like it.
Which is brilliant, because when constrained by Parliament such talk was laughed at in Brussels.............probably not so much now.
The debate has moved on a great deal. For 3 years the EU did not have to take anything we said seriously, now they do, and have 10 months to consider it.
They are under no obligation to do anything, but I suspect a lot will be sorted out very quickly. It’s reality to the EU now.
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05-02-2020, 10:01
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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If the perfidious Varadkar loses the Irish election this week,
then our future relationship with the EU might have been done a favour.
Just need Macro to fall into the Seine or something. He's up to same tricks as Varadkar - playing to hise public.
And there are still people in this thread who think the EU was/is a worthy institution and that a sovereign UK was/is unimportant.
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Phew - we're lucky BJ doesn't do that...
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05-02-2020, 11:53
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
In a move I’m sure will be welcomed by those remainers who insisted it would be difficult to achieve, the UK has taken its independent seat at the WTO just days after leaving the EU.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...ite-lizz-truss
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05-02-2020, 12:18
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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Phew - we're lucky BJ doesn't do that...
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... nor did Boris lose his elevtion. Might turn out to be a big difference.
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05-02-2020, 12:31
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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If the perfidious Varadkar loses the Irish election this week,
then our future relationship with the EU might have been done a favour.
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Not if what replaces him is a representative of the political wing of the IRA. That will just open one hell of a can of worms.
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05-02-2020, 13:52
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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Not if what replaces him is a representative of the political wing of the IRA. That will just open one hell of a can of worms.
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Ireland has a proportional voting system, and neither of the two main parties there will go into coalition with Sinn Féin. There isn’t going to be an IRA-sympathising Taoiseach.
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05-02-2020, 16:33
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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I welcome it, but don't remember anyone saying it would be difficult to achieve - considering the WTO has 164 members, not sure what, if any, the problem was supposed to be?
The UK has been a member of the WTO since 1995, anyway, it's just we were dealt with as part of the EU...
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05-02-2020, 21:24
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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The UK has been a member of the WTO since 1995, anyway, it's just we were dealt with as part of the EU...
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True, but has been represented by the EU, and voted and debated on what is best for the EU, not necessarily what is best for the UK.
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05-02-2020, 22:09
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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True, but has been represented by the EU, and voted and debated on what is best for the EU, not necessarily what is best for the UK.
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...which is one of the reasons that the Referendum went Leave’s way.
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06-02-2020, 16:38
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
Brexit LIVE: EU on alert as report warns of bankruptcies across bloc - Ireland at risk
OOh heck
THE EU is on alert after an economic report warned economies in the bloc will suffer because of Brexit, with bankruptcies anticipated in Ireland, Belgium and the Netherlands.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-single-market
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06-02-2020, 16:54
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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Brexit LIVE: EU on alert as report warns of bankruptcies across bloc - Ireland at risk
OOh heck
THE EU is on alert after an economic report warned economies in the bloc will suffer because of Brexit, with bankruptcies anticipated in Ireland, Belgium and the Netherlands.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-single-market
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But wait! We need the EU more than they need us, at least that's what remainers kept telling us.
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06-02-2020, 17:39
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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But wait! We need the EU more than they need us, at least that's what remainers kept telling us.
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Yet oddly, when bankruptcies have or were predicted on the UK side A proportion people simply discarded them as 'Project Fear'
I suspect the truth lies that to a degree the EU needs us, and we will need the EU. To what degree that is?
There's a lot of political willy waving (or Sabre rattling if you prefer) ongoing at the moment, from both sides. Hopefully it will calm down.
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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Yet oddly, when bankruptcies have or were predicted on the UK side A proportion people simply discarded them as 'Project Fear'
I suspect the truth lies that to a degree the EU needs us, and we will need the EU. To what degree that is?
There's a lot of political willy waving (or Sabre rattling if you prefer) ongoing at the moment, from both sides. Hopefully it will calm down.
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And they still owe us ww3 and a starving population
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06-02-2020, 18:20
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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Yet oddly, when bankruptcies have or were predicted on the UK side A proportion people simply discarded them as 'Project Fear'
I suspect the truth lies that to a degree the EU needs us, and we will need the EU. To what degree that is?
There's a lot of political willy waving (or Sabre rattling if you prefer) ongoing at the moment, from both sides. Hopefully it will calm down
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That’s quite a sane analysis.
On the other hand, if, like me, you are on the sovereignty line of reasoning, those two possibilities (mutual need) cancel out.
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