Election 2019 - Week 5

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Mr K

You don't seem that enthusiastic about it ! The only reason he's PM is because of Brexit, which he doesn't actually believe in at all. Took ages to decide which side he was going to be on; what was best for his political career being the deciding factor. I have a feeling even if he does win, the Tories are those that are going to be most disappointed with him. He'll be hounded out within a year when he's still failed to sort Brexit out, and the country disintegrates into a second rate Poland.

You mean the EU will give us 9bn euros a year. Yep, that's how much they get.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by nomadking

You mean the EU will give us 9bn euros a year. Yep, that's how much they get.

There are going to be an awful lot of disappointed people when reality hits. A guaranteed socialist govt for 20 years will be the fall out; no wonder Corbyn is keen on Brexit. Think on...

[nomadking]

Corbyn likes the EU in that it can tell a Conservative government what it can and can't do, on the other hand he hates it because they can also tell a Labour government what they can and can't do.

Reddit have said the NHS documents which were leaked to the platform are suspected to be from a targeted Russian campaign: https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsecur...sia_on_reddit/

[Sephiroth]

The Debate

Corbyn just about had the debating edge but he got let off lightly on antisemitism.

Boris didn't bumble too much and thus got his message across.

The applause, small though it was, just about went to Boris. The questions were tame, there was reasonable debate, they both repeated their core messages and managed to work them into the question being asked.

I think people have already made up their minds.

What a rousing acclamation for a leader of a Party and Prime Minister - "didn’t bumble too much".

Can you imagine the conversation?

"How was the operation? "

"Oh, it was OK - the surgeon didn’t bumble too much".

What has become of our country and our political parties when this is seen as normal?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

What a rousing acclamation for a leader of a Party and Prime Minister - "didn’t bumble too much".

Can you imagine the conversation?

"How was the operation? "

"Oh, it was OK - the surgeon didn’t bumble too much".

What has become of our country and our political parties when this is seen as normal?

You are being silly again, just trying to seize on something to discredit Boris. What's a surgeon/operation got to do with this.

Actually, Boris hardly bumbled, but his technique (if you can call it that) was there, which is why Corbyn (may he rot somewhere) had the debating edge.

Off-topic post removed, the thread is about the election and not about previous team instructions.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You are being silly again, just trying to seize on something to discredit Boris. What's a surgeon/operation got to do with this.

Actually, Boris hardly bumbled, but his technique (if you can call it that) was there, which is why Corbyn (may he rot somewhere) had the debating edge.

You said he "didn’t bumble too much", not me, so any "discrediting" is on you...

btw, look up "analogy"...

[Mr K]

'Get Brexit Done' - I wonder how many really believe that a vote in parliament actually does that? Or that we'll still be paying in and following EU rules, with no voting rights, for perhaps many years. That on top of the lies about new hospitals, nurses and police, plus tax cuts, which we can't possibly afford. We'll lose N Ireland and Scotland, RIP UK, and welcome to Little backward England.

Even if the Tories win this election, Johnson's lies could end up destroying them as a party and the UK as a country, the public will be unforgiving.

Try doing some long term 'thinking' is my advice, and not fall for the bumbling, not so loveable clown act and his simplistic 'get Brexit done' cobblers....

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

'Get Brexit Done' - I wonder how many really believe that a vote in parliament actually does that? Or that we'll still be paying in and following EU rules, with no voting rights, for perhaps many years. That on top of the lies about new hospitals, nurses and police, plus tax cuts, which we can't possibly afford. We'll lose N Ireland and Scotland, RIP UK, and welcome to Little backward England.

Even if the Tories win this election, Johnson's lies could end up destroying them as a party and the UK as a country, the public will be unforgiving.

Try doing some long term 'thinking' is my advice, and not fall for the bumbling, not so loveable clown act and his simplistic 'get Brexit done' cobblers....

Corbyn's hand in everyone's pocket,ruined economy, failed nationalisation projects, constant strikes,£10,000,000 for a loaf of bread,pensioners committing suicide to escape poverty.

Originally Posted by Mr K

'Get Brexit Done' - I wonder how many really believe that a vote in parliament actually does that? Or that we'll still be paying in and following EU rules, with no voting rights, for perhaps many years. That on top of the lies about new hospitals, nurses and police, plus tax cuts, which we can't possibly afford. We'll lose N Ireland and Scotland, RIP UK, and welcome to Little backward England.

Even if the Tories win this election, Johnson's lies could end up destroying them as a party and the UK as a country, the public will be unforgiving.

Try doing some long term 'thinking' is my advice, and not fall for the bumbling, not so loveable clown act and his simplistic 'get Brexit done' cobblers....

The problem with your advice, is that it is flawed. It’s tinged with typical negative Brexit mantra. Anti-Tory rhetoric.

As usual. But no mention of the dire fantasies of the Labour Party, who are now, as the news was Breaking last night, they’re now embroiled in sharing Russian Fake News, a disinformation campaign directly emanating from Russia, regarding the NHS is for sale bollocks. It should ring alarm bells that Corbyn is willing to do Russia’s bidding.

Labour would be a disaster for the UK. Socialism does not work, tried and tested and that is what really needs to be thought about!

[nomadking]

To be fair, I don't think anybody is saying that the leaked discussion document is false, just that the meaning of it's content is being wilfully misrepresented by Labour, not by whoever leaked it. Just another in the long line of mere discussion documents that are wilfully misrepresented by Labour as being Government intentions.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

'Get Brexit Done' - I wonder how many really believe that a vote in parliament actually does that? Or that we'll still be paying in and following EU rules, with no voting rights, for perhaps many years. That on top of the lies about new hospitals, nurses and police, plus tax cuts, which we can't possibly afford. We'll lose N Ireland and Scotland, RIP UK, and welcome to Little backward England.

Even if the Tories win this election, Johnson's lies could end up destroying them as a party and the UK as a country, the public will be unforgiving.

Try doing some long term 'thinking' is my advice, and not fall for the bumbling, not so loveable clown act and his simplistic 'get Brexit done' cobblers....

Man, you seem to be getting desperate with your posts - you must be worried.

By 'Get Brexit Done', you know very well that Boris means that he wants us out of Europe by this January. The trade deal negotiation comes next, which he reckons he can have dealt with in a year. To my mind, that is not an impossible task, particularly as we already meet the standards of the EU.

As for your doom and gloom scenario about the impact of Brexit, I don't buy it. As I've said before, trade with the EU will continue and in addition we will open up new markets elsewhere in the world, which means more, not less income. The stubborn sect of remainers will be deeply shocked when they realise that Brexit has happened and the world keeps on turning.

You might like to paint Boris in the worst possible light, but no matter what you say about him, what I could say about terrorist-lover and Britain-hater Corbyn is infinitely worse.

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Mr K

'Get Brexit Done' - I wonder how many really believe that a vote in parliament actually does that? Or that we'll still be paying in and following EU rules, with no voting rights, for perhaps many years. That on top of the lies about new hospitals, nurses and police, plus tax cuts, which we can't possibly afford. We'll lose N Ireland and Scotland, RIP UK, and welcome to Little backward England.

Even if the Tories win this election, Johnson's lies could end up destroying them as a party and the UK as a country, the public will be unforgiving.

Try doing some long term 'thinking' is my advice, and not fall for the bumbling, not so loveable clown act and his simplistic 'get Brexit done' cobblers....

Not sure even the EU are likely to support Johnsons deal as it stands. However, I suspect they do not want the electorate knowing that "Get Brexit Done" means anything up to 10 years before we see the back of it.