27-11-2019, 13:38
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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Will Boris fare as badly? I can’t see it myself.
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I can, TM is a saint compared to the liar incarnate.
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27-11-2019, 14:07
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#287
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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I can, TM is a saint compared to the liar incarnate.
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I don’t think moral fortitude is what will decide this election.
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27-11-2019, 14:13
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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Does that mean that someone who tries to avoid talking to (insert minority here) because they are uncomfortable with (insert minority here) is as racist as someone who beats up and seriously injures, perhaps kills, someone from a (insert minority here) because they hate that (insert minority here)?
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Degrees of hate really...
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27-11-2019, 16:32
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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I can, TM is a saint compared to the liar incarnate.
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He's nothing compared to Corbyn, who is still insisting that the NHS is up for sale. Who does he think will be taken in by this?
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27-11-2019, 16:38
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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He's nothing compared to Corbyn, who is still insisting that the NHS is up for sale. Who does he think will be taken in by this?
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Anybody with a knowledge of Boris's track record of broken promises.
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27-11-2019, 17:54
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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Anybody with a knowledge of Boris's track record of broken promises.
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Well, the tuth is that only the civil servants have been scoping the nature of possible negotiations - Conservative ministers have not been involved.
So bang goes that deflection story from Corbyn.
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27-11-2019, 18:00
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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Well, the tuth is that only the civil servants have been scoping the nature of possible negotiations - Conservative ministers have not been involved.
So bang goes that deflection story from Corbyn.
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Source?
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27-11-2019, 18:10
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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Well, the tuth is that only the civil servants have been scoping the nature of possible negotiations - Conservative ministers have not been involved.
So bang goes that deflection story from Corbyn.
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That's quite an audacious claim that the Civil Service are undermining Ministers and wasting resourcing considering possible options that will not happen.
I see on my day off you've continued to peddle the Conservative at all cost mantra.
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27-11-2019, 18:18
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Labour obtained uncensored government documents covering six rounds of talks between US and UK officials in Washington and London between July 2017 and July 2019.
They are all preparatory meetings ahead of formal trade talks.
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The main push for "privatisation" of the NHS came under Labour.
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27-11-2019, 18:20
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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The main push for "privatisation" of the NHS came under Labour.
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Doesn't matter if the Conservatives want to push further though now, does it?
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27-11-2019, 18:21
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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The main push for "privatisation" of the NHS came under Labour.
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so in 2 years of trade talks, there has been no involvement of Government Ministers to review progress and provide direction?
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27-11-2019, 18:22
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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so in 2 years of trade talks, there has been no involvement of Government Ministers to review progress and provide direction?
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Arguably I could believe the second part, but due to incompetence on the part of Ministers rather than it being the normal practice in the Civil Service.
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27-11-2019, 18:23
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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That's quite an audacious claim that the Civil Service are undermining Ministers and wasting resourcing considering possible options that will not happen.
I see on my day off you've continued to peddle the Conservative at all cost mantra.
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Nothing at all has been agreed. It's just things they might want to discuss and agree upon. "Everything is up for discussion" is very different to "Agree to everything or nothing will be agreed".
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27-11-2019, 18:24
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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Nothing at all has been agreed. It's just things they might want to discuss and agree upon. "Everything is up for discussion" is very different to "Agree to everything or nothing will be agreed".
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And discussing items that are non-negotiable is a total waste of time.
Nothing has been agreed but we certainly have the Ministerial steer.
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27-11-2019, 18:25
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 3
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Doesn't matter if the Conservatives want to push further though now, does it?
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At best, it's disingenuous of Labour to squeal about "privatisation", And the evidence of pushing for much further privatisation is...........?
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