PM Boris forms a government - Page 135

jfman · 06-09-2019, 20:06

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Originally Posted by nomadking

What's to solve? Their problem, not ours.

Goods moving from the EU to Scotland (in the EU) wouldn't be affected by increased customs checks for goods traversing a third country (England).

richard s · 06-09-2019, 20:13

DUP SUCK.

Mr K · 06-09-2019, 20:16

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DUP SUCK.

Yeah, they suck lemons by the look of them....

nomadking · 06-09-2019, 20:25

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Originally Posted by jfman

Goods moving from the EU to Scotland (in the EU) wouldn't be affected by increased customs checks for goods traversing a third country (England).

Scotland wouldn't be in the EU. No way it can be, and not overnight. Getting their 8% deficit down to below 3% should be fun to watch.

jfman · 06-09-2019, 20:38

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Scotland wouldn't be in the EU. No way it can be, and not overnight. Getting their 8% deficit down to below 3% should be fun to watch.

Wishful thinking on your part.

Scotland doesn't have a budget, London produces statistics that aren't directly comparable to a Scottish budget.

pip08456 · 06-09-2019, 20:44

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Originally Posted by jfman

Wishful thinking on your part.

Scotland doesn't have a budget, London produces statistics that aren't directly comparable to a Scottish budget.

They will have to have one if they go independeant. No more EU, no more cash handouts from London either

nomadking · 06-09-2019, 20:45

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Wishful thinking on your part.

Scotland doesn't have a budget, London produces statistics that aren't directly comparable to a Scottish budget.

Scottish oil revenues are included in the 8%. If anything with independence, their spending would have to go up as they take over central UK responsibilities. They would have to have their own currency and show for a period of time they can be fiscally responsible.

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The latest Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (Gers) data for Scotland shows that for 2017-18 overall state spending hit £73.4bn compared to tax income of just under £60bn, including oil revenues. That left a deficit for the year of £13.4bn, compared with £13.5bn the year before. Scotland’s deficit was equivalent to 7.9% of GDP, while for the UK as a whole it was 1.9%.

jfman · 06-09-2019, 20:47

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Originally Posted by pip08456

They will have to have one if they go independeant. No more EU, no more cash handouts from London either

They will, but right now they don't. London produces statistics that it portrays as a Scottish budget. However, it includes expenditure the Scottish Government are committed to abolishing - Trident for one.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Scottish oil revenues are included in the 8%. If anything with independence, their spending would have to go up as they take over central UK responsibilities. They would have to have their own currency and show for a period of time they can be fiscally responsible.

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Ah GERS. Not a budget.

Pierre · 06-09-2019, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Thought this would get more notice...

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...n-becomes-law/

Good.

pip08456 · 06-09-2019, 20:50

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Originally Posted by jfman

They will, but right now they don't. London produces statistics that it portrays as a Scottish budget. However, it includes expenditure the Scottish Government are committed to abolishing - Trident for one.

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Ah GERS. Not a budget.

Well when they have independence we'll close the base and move it elsewhere so there won't be any spending for trident.

jfman · 06-09-2019, 20:54

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Well when they have independence we'll close the base and move it elsewhere so there won't be any spending for trident.

Exactly - this is factored into the GERS figure for Scotland that puts it in 'deficit'. As is it's contribution to UK debt repayments.

Oddly - the same stats show that England is the only fiscally responsible country in the UK yet England wants to desperately keep it together. Why are there no politicians saying an extra £Xm a week for the English NHS without Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland?

Carth · 06-09-2019, 21:05

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Why are there no politicians saying an extra £Xm a week for the English NHS without Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland?

Because - from prior experience - people will moan that it will then cost an extra £1.42p to holiday in Scotland and Wales, the price of porridge oats will go through the roof, Guiness will become a luxury drink only available through mail order, and Cardiff/Swansea/Wrexham would be playing in Europe every season

nomadking · 06-09-2019, 21:07

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Originally Posted by jfman

They will, but right now they don't. London produces statistics that it portrays as a Scottish budget. However, it includes expenditure the Scottish Government are committed to abolishing - Trident for one.

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Ah GERS. Not a budget.

It's still what they spend.
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SCOTS are paying £180 million every year for Trident, the SNP has claimed.

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In fact the annual running costs of Trident will be around £2 billion a year and £200 million for the aircraft carriers. Scotland’s share of this will be less than £200 million, compared to a total budget spend of £71bn.

Not going to make much of a dent
From my previous link.

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That left a deficit for the year of £13.4bn, compared with £13.5bn the year before.

jfman · 06-09-2019, 21:08

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It's still what they spend.
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However, it's not comparable to a budget of an independent nation. Which was my original point. You can deflect/deny as you wish but that will not make you correct.

1andrew1 · 06-09-2019, 21:08

Well, Rees-Mogg may be characterised as the Honourable Member for the 18th Century but Boris Johnson is fast becoming the Honourable Member for the 1970s

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Boris Johnson called David Cameron 'girly swot', leaked document reveals
The unredacted part of cabinet papers reveals the PM's view of his predecessor and suggests how he communicates in private.
Mr Johnson wrote: "The whole September session is a rigmarole introduced by girly swot Cameron and show the public that MPs are earning their crust."

Previously, the phrase "by girly swot Cameron" had been redacted in the papers released by the court.

It is thought that they were redacted to minimise political embarrassment. Both politicians went to Eton and were members of the Bullingdon Club for Oxford University students...
The latest episode comes a day after Mr Johnson appeared to call Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn a "great big girl's blouse" in the House of Commons.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...veals-11803807