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				You’re right it did and i’m More than happy for it to stay, 
 
I didn’t include it because it is intrinsically implied by leaving the Single Market, we leave the four freedoms. But happy to explicitly list it. 
			
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 Good decision, I think it should be explicitly listed, it was the most important reason for most people voting leave  after all 
 
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				I am not twisting the truth. Wherever that claim came from, the Labour Party and the undemocratic remainers who want to ignore the will of the electorate are making these claims as if they were factual. They are not factual at all. They are just opinions touted by people who have no vision of how Brexit can be made to work to the UK's advantage. 
 
All they are doing is attempting to frighten people into putting pressure on the government to ignore the referendum result, and it is highly reprehensible. 
			
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 Oh now you care about people making wild claims and passing them of as fact, don't remember you caring much about the electorate when the wildest claims were made three years ago, truth is you couldn't give a toss about the electorate or the will of the people, your only intetest is in getting your own way and to hell with the consequences 
 
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 That study was SOLELY based upon the presumption that consumption of fruit and veg would go down.  
			
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   you think it'll go up then?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			26-08-2019, 15:16
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				We were talking about the EU, not the Eurozone area (nice try at moving the goalposts, though    ).
 
I thought the 1st and 3rd largest economies was fairly representative, but ymmv...  
			
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 The website I quoted did not show the EU as a separate entity.
 
Anyways, just heard that Germany is heading for a recession. Hey, ho..   
 
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				Oh now you care about people making wild claims and passing them of as fact, don't remember you caring much about the electorate when the wildest claims were made three years ago, truth is you couldn't give a toss about the electorate or the will of the people, your only intetest is in getting your own way and to hell with the consequences 
  
			
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 You really are quite naive, aren't you, TD? Had you not experienced an electoral campaign before this one?
 
The will of the electorate is to leave the EU. We were promised that if we voted to leave, we'd leave. I thought you disapproved of politicians who said they'd do one thing and then did another.
 
Clearly, only when it suits you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			26-08-2019, 15:26
			
			
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				The website I quoted did not show the EU as a separate entity. 
Anyways, just heard that Germany is heading for a recession. Hey, ho..   
 
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You really are quite naive, aren't you, TD?  Had you not experienced an electoral campaign before this one?
The will of the electorate is to leave the EU. We were promised that if we voted to leave, we'd leave. I thought you disapproved of politicians who said they'd do one thing and then did another.
 
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 He campaigned on behalf of UKIP before the referendum.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			26-08-2019, 16:10
			
			
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				The website I quoted did not show the EU as a separate entity.
Anyways, just heard that Germany is heading for a recession. Hey, ho..   
 
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You really are quite naive, aren't you, TD? Had you not experienced an electoral campaign before this one?
 
The will of the electorate is to leave the EU. We were promised that if we voted to leave, we'd leave. I thought you disapproved of politicians who said they'd do one thing and then did another.
 
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 Link?
 
And anyone who would smile at a country, which consists if 81.5 million men, women, and children, heading for a recession reflects badly upon that person, imho.
 
Anyway, The German government had a fiscal surplus of €58bn (£53.6bn) in 2018, so it has plenty of cash to spend, unlike the U.K., which had a budget deficit of £32bn.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			26-08-2019, 16:19
			
			
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And anyone who would smile at a country, which consists if 81.5 million men, women, and children, heading for a recession reflects badly upon that person, imho. 
			
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 Here's one wot i found
 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49342244
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			26-08-2019, 16:24
			
			
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 Thanks, but the link requested was for the IMF Eurozone figures quoted, as highlighted in bold in his quoted post.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Despite my disdain for Boris, he seems to be handling Brexit in the right way.  It has to be remembered that a guvmin will only appear legitimate in the public's eyes if it can deliver on the direct democracy result - LEAVE. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Thanks, but the link requested was for the IMF Eurozone figures quoted, as highlighted in bold in his quoted post. 
			
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 You can Google it quite easily, which is what I did.
 
Papa and I thought you were referring to Germany's likely impending recession.
 
I wasn't laughing at Germany, I was laughing at those who cannot accept that the EU is not the safe harbour they believe it to be.. Of course I don't welcome such news. I was simply responding to your apparent view that we are better off in the EU. I'm afraid the union is beset with many problems now and in the near future and we don't want to be in it when it all kicks off.
 
Ah, here are the latest GDP figures.
 https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/...updateJuly2019
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				You can Google it quite easily, which is what I did. 
Papa and I thought you were referring to Germany's likely impending recession.
 
I wasn't laughing at Germany, I was laughing at those who cannot accept that the EU is not the safe harbour they believe it to be.. Of course I don't welcome such news. I was simply responding to your apparent view that we are better off in the EU. I'm afraid the union is beset with many problems now and in the near future and we don't want to be in it when it all kicks off.
 
Ah, here are the latest GDP figures.
 https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/...updateJuly2019 
			
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 Germanys downturn could be a benefit to a post brexit Britain so it's maybe not all bad.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Someone's downturn is sometimes someone's uplift. 
 
Btw, I just watched the Boris press conference at Biarritz and he was not the buffoon that many would expect him to be. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Someone's downturn is sometimes someone's uplift. 
 
Btw, I just watched the Boris press conference at Biarritz and he was not the buffoon that many would expect him to be. 
 
			
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 He's turning out to be quite a good PM so far, like a breath of fresh air.
 
Come the General Election, it looks like he'll sweep the board and at last we'll be able to get decisions made in the House of Commons again!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				You can Google it quite easily, which is what I did.
 
Papa and I thought you were referring to Germany's likely impending recession.
 
I wasn't laughing at Germany, I was laughing at those who cannot accept that the EU is not the safe harbour they believe it to be.. Of course I don't welcome such news. I was simply responding to your apparent view that we are better off in the EU. I'm afraid the union is beset with many problems now and in the near future and we don't want to be in it when it all kicks off.
 
Ah, here are the latest GDP figures.
 https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/...updateJuly2019 
			
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 Since I didn’t know the search terms you used, that would have been difficult...   
Thanks for the link - shame you didn’t know the difference between the Euro area and the EU...
 
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				He's turning out to be quite a good PM so far, like a breath of fresh air. 
 
Come the General Election, it looks like he'll sweep the board and at last we'll be able to get decisions made in the House of Commons again! 
			
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 He is just as bad as Corbyn... no ifs , no buts and no maybes...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Since I didn’t know the search terms you used, that would have been difficult...   
Thanks for the link -  shame you didn’t know the difference between the Euro area and the EU...
 
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 ... splitting hairs again?  Why do you think the IMF analysis didn't bother with minnow economies in the EU but did include the UK as a discrete item? 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				He is just as bad as Corbyn... no ifs , no buts and no maybes... 
			
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 He's a lot more popular than Corbyn, and by the looks of it, he'll get this country moving forward again.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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