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					Originally Posted by pip08456   |  Just more examples of biased opinion which are in no way based upon facts. A bit like the Ambassador's comments in the first place.
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					Originally Posted by richard s  So we are going to withhold the 39 billion if the EU do not agree to any of Bo Jo's demands and then use the money to pay for all the wonderful promises he made in his speech. |  No, because in the end, we will get a deal - either a modified withdrawal agreement or an Article 24 agreement. The 'no deal' scenario is leverage - something a lot of people don't seem to be able to grasp.
 
What about the rest of his list that he read out yesterday afternoon? Anything there you disagree with?
		 
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  What about the rest of his list that he read out yesterday afternoon? Anything there you disagree with? |  It's hard to disagree with more police, more social care, lower taxes, more spending on education and all fibre internet for every home. That's not policy, they're just aspirations. Anyone can promise more stuff for less money. 
 
How is he going to do it?
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					Originally Posted by Damien  I don't know how he is going to sort adult social care without using their homes whilst also cutting taxes. |  Conservatives do not leave the economy in bad shape. That's what Labour does, it is their speciality.
 
If you are so worried about how Boris will find the money, which he will, why are you and other socialist-minded people not concerned about Labour's plans for our economy? If Corbyn had made the speech Boris did last night, you would have hailed him as our saviour!
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					Originally Posted by Damien  It's hard to disagree with more police, more social care, lower taxes, more spending on education and all fibre internet for every home. That's not policy, they're just aspirations. Anyone can promise more stuff for less money. 
 How is he going to do it?
 |  That magic money tree comes in handy...
		 
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					Originally Posted by Damien  It's hard to disagree with more police, more social care, lower taxes, more spending on education and all fibre internet for every home. That's not policy, they're just aspirations. Anyone can promise more stuff for less money. 
 How is he going to do it?
 |  Not something you need to worry about, Damien. Boris is not going to spell everything out in detail so people can take pot shots at him and trip him up. 
 
Cutting taxes leads to complex results, but one thing is for sure - it encourages business and money will come into the country. Investment will thrive.
 
It's a far better way than Corbyn's plan to simply print money, which will simply raise interest rates exponentially and bring us all to our knees. Just like Venezuala. 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  That magic money tree comes in handy... |  JC knows all about that.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  JC knows all about that. |  l don't care two hoots about Corbyn but alas its your typical default response to anybody who ask questions  to a political apoligist...
		 
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					Originally Posted by Damien  It's hard to disagree with more police, more social care, lower taxes, more spending on education and all fibre internet for every home. That's not policy, they're just aspirations. Anyone can promise more stuff for less money. 
 How is he going to do it?
 |  If it's like the recent public sector pay rises, it won't need to be paid for at all. With the pay rises, the money is coming from existing budgets, meaning cuts will need to be made elsewhere in each departments budget to cover the costs.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  If you are so worried about how Boris will find the money, which he will, why are you and other socialist-minded people not concerned about Labour's plans for our economy? If Corbyn had made the speech Boris did last night, you would have hailed him as our saviour!
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					Originally Posted by denphone  l don't care two hoots about Corbyn but alas its your typical default response to anybody who ask questions  to a political apoligist... |  No, Den, I am simply highlighting the hypocracy of those who try to pull apart Conservative spending plans arguing they can't afford it while applauding any amount of spending Labourproposes irrespective of whether the money is there.
 
Conservatives do not blow budgets but Socialists do. I thought we all knew that. 
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					Originally Posted by Damien  We've been through this before. I don't support Corbyn and have been critical of him many times on here. I didn't vote for Labour under him or Ed Miliband. It is dishonest of you to keep trying that deflection.   |  My comment was relevant. However, if you are not a socialist, my apologies.
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					Originally Posted by denphone  l don't care two hoots about Corbyn but alas its your typical default response to anybody who ask questions  to a political apoligist... |    
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  Anyway, back to Mr Blobby. If he hasn't pressed the button by accident by the end of the day he'll have surpassed my expectations... |  Well done Bozza, he hasn't pressed that button. Just today to worry about now....
 
He hasn't really mentioned the major threat to the country, climate change...   Not sexy or Brexity enough I guess.
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  Well done Bozza, he hasn't pressed that button. Just today to worry about now....
 He hasn't really mentioned the major threat to the country, climate change...   Not sexy or Brexity enough I guess.
 |  Not surprised after climate terrorists stopped his motorcade yesterday,no one listens when nutters start these stupid protests.
		 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  Not surprised after climate terrorists stopped his motorcade yesterday,no one listens when nutters start these stupid protests. |  Holding hands to block a road is not terrorism.
		 
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