PM Boris forms a government

I'm more concerned about how BJ will deal with Foreign affairs..His previous behaviour in the role as Foreign Secretary does not bode well

[Mr K]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...help-squeezed/

Boris Johnson is prepared to turn on the spending taps by borrowing money to help the squeezed middle classes if he is confirmed as the new Tory leader on Tuesday.

The former foreign secretary is in favour of a policy of “fiscal loosening” that would reverse the tight controls on public spending imposed by Philip Hammond.

He is determined to honour promises to give tax breaks to everyone who earns less than £80,000, and is ready to pause the current policy of bringing down the deficit.

This would hilarious if it wasn't true. His priority is cutting tax for those earning less then a paltry £80k (guess what? MPs earn £76k). So he's prepared to borrow, increase the deficit it to give the money away to those that don't need it.... How about the NHS if he's going to borrow ? This is a Tory is it ?

Also astounding is the definition of 'middle class' from the Torygraph - anyone less than £80k. Someone needs to tell them the average salary is £27k.... Some of the country are living in a different world.

Tax cuts don't increase tax take either, another urban myth spread by interested parties....
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...p-laffer-curve

This country is going to become more divided than ever before.

[tweetiepooh]

I'd guess that middle class means different things in different parts of the country or world. I earn above that average but would still count myself as middle-class. Methinks class or perception of it has less to do with income than some societal thinking. I once read that if you own a microwave you are in the top 10% wealthiest in the world.

I would say that below £80k would fit nicely to middle-income. And it's middle income that are normally hit most with taxes. Rich enough to have to pay them, poor enough not to be able to afford to avoid.

[pip08456]

Boris elected new leader of the Conservative party.

Johnson 92,153

Hunt 46,656

I thought the BBC headlines were a bit harsh, then I realised it was about an unconnected story...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by pip08456

boris elected new leader of the conservative party.

Johnson 92,153

hunt 46,656

66% of the vote

[denphone]

How Boris Johnson's majority compares with other party leaders.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

In percentage terms, that is better than Jeremy Corbyn achieved in the last Labour leadership election, in 2016, when he got 62% of the vote on a 78% turnout (although the electorate in that contest was much larger). It is also better than Jo Swinson achieved yesterday, when she was elected Lib Dem leader with 63% of the vote on a 72% turnout.

Johnson has also done better than Iain Duncan Smith, the first Conservative leader elected by members, not just MPs. In 2001 Duncan Smith got 61% of the vote on a 78% turnout.

But Johnson has not managed to beat his old rival, David Cameron. Cameron had 68% of the vote when he won in 2005, on a turnout that was also 78%.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by denphone

How Boris Johnson's majority compares with other party leaders.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

Which is bigger 66% of an 87% turnout or 68% of a 78% turnout?
Asking for a friend.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

I'd guess that middle class means different things in different parts of the country or world. I earn above that average but would still count myself as middle-class. Methinks class or perception of it has less to do with income than some societal thinking. I once read that if you own a microwave you are in the top 10% wealthiest in the world.

I would say that below £80k would fit nicely to middle-income. And it's middle income that are normally hit most with taxes. Rich enough to have to pay them, poor enough not to be able to afford to avoid.

It's not about what you earn it's what Tea you drink that decides your class and position in society.


I own 3 microwaves,i'm not rich cos i spent all my money on microwave ovens.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

It's not about what you earn it's what Tea you drink that decides your class and position in society.


I own 3 microwaves,i'm not rich cos i spent all my money on microwave ovens.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Which is bigger 66% of an 87% turnout or 68% of a 78% turnout?
Asking for a friend.

BJ - 92,153 out of 139,245 (87.4% of 159,320)
DC - 134,446 out of 198,844

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Hugh

BJ - 92,153 out of 139,245 (87.4% of 159,320)
DC - 134,446 out of 198,844

At least someone knows how to do the maths.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by denphone

At least someone knows how to do the maths.

I had no interest in doing the maths, I knew the numbers were higher for Johnson. Depending on which reality you are in.

So it’s Boris ... let the squealing begin ...

[Dave42]

no surprise let the chaos begin god help uk