PM Boris forms a government

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

There I disagree with you. I want voters to at least have got some in, know something about taxation and what it buys, pensions, current affairs.

Well that rules out a reasonable percentage of people of all ages...

Originally Posted by ianch99

I actually think Johnson was bluffing when he said he would not rule this out. Raab may have done this but Johnson is more concerned with his historical legacy than anything and denying Parliamentary Sovereignty to gain Parliamentary Sovereignty would not be his finest hour looking back.

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Can you remind us all why this forum is denying a discussion on this the most current of Current Affairs?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=3934

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=3934

I have read this.

until there are actual developments regarding Brexit.

Really? There are plenty of Brexit related things going on. Things that matter.

Things like:

- the threat of no-deal Brexit prorogation of Parliament and the responses to block it
- the OBR report into the economic impact of No Deal
- the Royal Society analysis into the damage to scientific research in the UK following a Bad/No Deal

Originally Posted by ianch99

I have read this.



Really? There are plenty of Brexit related things going on. Things that matter.

Things like:

- the threat of no-deal Brexit prorogation of Parliament and the responses to block it
- the OBR report into the economic impact of No Deal
- the Royal Society analysis into the damage to scientific research in the UK following a Bad/No Deal

These are not developments.

Parliament could still be prorogued.

OBR Report - would this be version 234113212221 C? (Rhetorical Question)

More project fear analysis.

Enough of taking this thread off-topic, you have been repeatedly advised, if you have a site query, use the correct procedure.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I actually think Johnson was bluffing when he said he would not rule this out. Raab may have done this but Johnson is more concerned with his historical legacy than anything and denying Parliamentary Sovereignty to gain Parliamentary Sovereignty would not be his finest hour looking back.

I agree. I think his style as PM will be just to keep things open. Every time somebody opens their mouths about what they plan to do, somebody steps in to try and thwart it. Time to give less notice of one's strategies, I think, so good progress can be made before they try to trip one up!

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I agree. I think his style as PM will be just to keep things open. Every time somebody opens their mouths about what they plan to do, somebody steps in to try and thwart it. Time to give less notice of one's strategies, I think, so good progress can be made before they try to trip one up!

Make it difficult to agree consensus, and enough Parliamentary votes, if they don’t tell anyone until the last moment...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Make it difficult to agree consensus, and enough Parliamentary votes, if they don’t tell anyone until the last moment...

What I mean is that leaders and prospective leaders are perpetually being pressured to rule things out when they actually provide leverage.in negotiations.

Every time a politician is asked what they might do if....they answer it and then there is this big push to prevent it. Laying all one's cards on the table may demonstrate honesty, but it makes a mockery of getting the best result.

Of course we should try to get consensus. It is unfortunate that Parliament don't seem to know what they want so they try to wreck everything instead.

I do think that when Boris is elected, he will push up the popularity ratings of the Conservative Party. I cannot wait for a timely General Election to ensure a working majority to avoid the current fiasco from being repeated. We cannot go on like this.

[Sephiroth]

Boris will need to acieve something popular before he calls a GE. In that context, Iran's actions would be a tempting case for reprisal action which, if executed competently, would guarantee him an election win.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Boris will need to acieve something popular before he calls a GE. In that context, Iran's actions would be a tempting case for reprisal action which, if executed competently, would guarantee him an election win.

Let’s not have a war to help BJ’s popularity, eh?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Let’s not have a war to help BJ’s popularity, eh?

I hope that's not an admonishment towards me.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Boris will need to acieve something popular before he calls a GE. In that context, Iran's actions would be a tempting case for reprisal action which, if executed competently, would guarantee him an election win.

So what you're saying is we need a war/lives lost to save Blobby ? (Aka Falklands/Mrs T) to divert from the fact he won't be able to deliver Brexit ? All sounds suitably bonkers from the mad side of the country.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Let’s not have a war to help BJ’s popularity, eh?

The Falklands didn't do Maggie Thatcher any harm!

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I hope that's not an admonishment towards me.

It’s toward any chickenhawks who advocate conflict to increase a politician’s popularity - it’s never they, or their families, who suffer the impact of the deaths or maiming of those directly involved in conflicts.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The Falklands didn't do Maggie Thatcher any harm!

It didn't do the 905 who died for some penguins any good.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

It didn't do the 905 who died for some penguins any good.

Don't you start getting a humour deficiency, you are the only one keeping us sane with your perverse view of life! It's the way you tell 'em!

Obviously, I am not advocating any loss of life, that is the last thing most of us want. Unfortunately, I don't think the Iran thing is going to end well. You heard it here first.