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		|  05-07-2019, 10:18 | #3811 |  
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Appropriately hosted by the Express .. |  Originally hosted by BBC news night,but it's not about the messenger service it's about the message reaching the intellectually challenged,probably still went over some peoples heads but at least she tried to educate them.
		 
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		|  05-07-2019, 10:21 | #3812 |  
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			I can't really see the intellectual justification to compare the EU's membership of the EU to 'slaves rising up against their masters'. She seems to be more unhinged than usual lately.
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					Originally Posted by Damien  I can't really see the intellectual justification to compare the EU's membership of the EU to 'slaves rising up against their masters'. She seems to be more unhinged than usual lately. |  Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU.
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		|  05-07-2019, 10:58 | #3814 |  
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	OB, I agree with Damien here.  I find the EU to be highly undemocratic and we need to get our sovereignty back.  However, we are not slaves and they are not oppressors.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU. |  
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		|  05-07-2019, 11:10 | #3815 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  OB, I agree with Damien here.  I find the EU to be highly undemocratic and we need to get our sovereignty back.  However, we are not slaves and they are not oppressors.
 Her grandstanding speech was unwisely phrased and she's made herself a laughing stock.
 
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		|  05-07-2019, 11:13 | #3816 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  I agree it was over the top, Seph. But all this feigned 'offence' taken by the country's thought controllers has become rather ridiculous, don't you think? |  
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		|  05-07-2019, 11:55 | #3817 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU. |  I'm not sure Damien is the Messiah nor is he a very naughty boy for that matter.   
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		|  05-07-2019, 12:01 | #3818 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  I'm not sure Damien is the Messiah nor is he a very naughty boy for that matter.   
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Whilst I understand your point about the country's 'thought controllers', their expressions of outrage are no stronger than mine.
 I do not recognise Widdecombe as a reasonable ambassador for Brexit.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf   |  Or....
 
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		|  05-07-2019, 13:53 | #3823 |  
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  I tend to think the over-the-top, vindictive hyperbole by her and her Brexit Party colleagues will, in the long run, harm their cause. If they debated as adults rather than constantly try and excite their followers with patently childish descriptions: corrupt, cancerous, oppressors, feudal barons, etc, they would fare better in the long run.
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