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		| Obesity now causes more cases of four common cancers in the UK than smoking, according to a charity. 
 Cancer Research UK says bowel, kidney, ovarian and liver cancers are more likely to have been caused by being overweight than by smoking tobacco.
 
 It says millions are at risk of cancer because of their weight and that obese people outnumber smokers two to one.
 |  A bit misleading in the sense that it seems to be limited to these specific cancers, lung and throat cancers are probably still the most caused cancers from smoking, and this statistic is probably helped by a overall reduction in smoking related cancers as fewer people smoke however still noteworthy.
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		| Cancer Research UK says bowel, kidney, ovarian and liver cancers are more likely to have been caused by being overweight than by smoking tobacco. |  I note lung cancer is not included..So I'll keep on banging on about smoking being a cause for concern especially as my OH is currently battling lung cancer having been a lifelong smoker until 9 years ago.
		 
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			Perhaps the fear of cancer will be more effective than "fat shaming" to get the lard-asses to shed a few pounds.   
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			Perhaps people should exercise more... 
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		| Physical activity probably plays a role too, experts say. |  or then again maybe not.
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		|  03-07-2019, 12:21 | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy J  I note lung cancer is not included..So I'll keep on banging on about smoking being a cause for concern especially as my OH is currently battling lung cancer having been a lifelong smoker until 9 years ago. |  Yeah, the 'some' in the headline is doing a lot of work. The other way to put the story would be 'obesity causes more cases of obesity related cancer than smoking'. It's entirely logical bowel cancer would be more likely to be caused by diet than smoking.
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					Originally Posted by Damien  Yeah, the 'some' in the headline is doing a lot of work. The other way to put the story would be 'obesity causes more cases of obesity related cancer than smoking'. It's entirely logical bowel cancer would be more likely to be caused by diet than smoking. |  Agreed! My OH has been a skinny rake all his life and obesity has never been an issue for him. Also diet and environment play their part as well as heredity.There is no one simple cause for any of the cancers that plague humans.
		 
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		|  03-07-2019, 15:01 | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by nomadking  Perhaps people should exercise more...
 or then again maybe not.
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			I’m becoming a tad concerned at how readily the phrase “fat shaming” comes into any discussion about clinical obesity recently.  While the causes of morbid obesity are a little more complex than people simply eating too much, obesity is now endemic in our population and is becoming a crisis.  We have to be able to separate people being genuinely mean about other people’s appearance from important public messages that communicate difficult but important truths about the connection between obesity and disease.
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			Nowadays people are provided with too many ready-made excuses. IE I do X because of Y. Eg I(not myself) overeat because my granny died 10 years ago. They never have to accept responsibility for their actions/inactions. I say that as somebody who is very overweight.
 
 In my case an orthopaedic consultant said that I couldn't be expected to lose weight until they sorted my knee out, but they won't do that because of my weight.
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			There are often stress or depression related triggers for overeating, and the cheapest, easiest to come by snacks on our supermarket shelves are loaded with processed sugar that gives you a massive calorie dose without filling you up (the sugar industry played a blinder, getting everyone focused on fat content ... fat content in food is arguably a far less serious problem because ingesting it makes you feel full).  So the deck is indeed stacked against you to an extent.  There are push factors to overeating, and when you eat, there are too many foods that readily cause weight gain.
 Having said all that, you still have to go to a shop, put it in a trolley, take it home and then put it in your mouth...
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		|  03-07-2019, 17:25 | #11 |  
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			I was 18 stone  4 months ago now i'm 15 st-7lbs ,it's all about a complete change of diet for me [no snacking on crap] and no fatty food ,i also do a bit of cycling and walking but not to excess. 
my goal is 14 stone and when i get there i'm having a steak and potato pie with lots of mash to celebrate. 
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					Originally Posted by Chris  There are often stress or depression related triggers for overeating, and the cheapest, easiest to come by snacks on our supermarket shelves are loaded with processed sugar that gives you a massive calorie dose without filling you up (the sugar industry played a blinder, getting everyone focused on fat content ... fat content in food is arguably a far less serious problem because ingesting it makes you feel full).  So the deck is indeed stacked against you to an extent.  There are push factors to overeating, and when you eat, there are too many foods that readily cause weight gain.
 Having said all that, you still have to go to a shop, put it in a trolley, take it home and then put it in your mouth...
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I avoid crisps ,biscuits ,cakes ,pop, meat [with the exception of chicken ] no sausages bacon  ,butter .but the veg isle gets a good hammering and the shopping bill has gone down.
		
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		|  03-07-2019, 18:13 | #12 |  
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			I'm losing weight on a high protein,low fat,low carb diet. I've lost 7 stone so far.I still got breast cancer though.I suspect that was down to bad luck.
		 
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			l am on a soft food diet because of a medical  condition and have lost 26lb in the last 3 months.
		 
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