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		|  26-06-2019, 09:19 | #481 |  
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  Exactly and then what |  
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		|  26-06-2019, 09:54 | #482 |  
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			I'm past caring about any of it..This country is being run by a bunch of bickering children.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  And then what ?   |  And then what?  IDS’s job here is to help BoJo win a vote of party members.  He’s well placed to do that because he won a vote of party members.  Pretty simple, really.
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					Originally Posted by Chris  And then what?  IDS’s job here is to help BoJo win a vote of party members.  He’s well placed to do that because he won a vote of party members.  Pretty simple, really. |  You can get 4/1 on Hunt, looking like tempting odds...
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		| .  Surely it’s all over for Boris Johnson. He has committed by far his greatest blunder so far, at least in this leadership contest. He has appointed Iain Duncan Smith as his campaign manager. 
 That’s right. IDS. The man who was so incompetent a leader that his party got rid of him back in 2003. The man who helped (with George Osborne) make such a mess of universal credit. The man who resigned from the Cabinet on the very issue of welfare reform, just when it was past time for his departure to make any difference.
 He also quit, in 2016, just before all his Eurosceptic Christmases came at once and Leave won the EU referendum. (He's been out of the cabinet ever since). The “Quiet Man” with the permanent frog in his throat. The one cartooned as Dracula sucking the blood from benefit claimants. The one who was attacked for employing his wife Betsy as his assistant on the taxpayer. The one who couldn't lay a glove on Tony Blair. The one who made Michael Howard look like a vote magnet.
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		|  26-06-2019, 10:43 | #485 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy J  I'm past caring about any of it..This country is being run by a bunch of bickering children. |  
 
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		|  26-06-2019, 11:51 | #486 |  
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		|  26-06-2019, 15:36 | #487 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  How on earth can I justify voting for Boris on his current miserable performance?  The latest photo (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...monds-picture/) has done it for me - he doesn't accuse his enemies of putting it out; so if his team did it, then it's dishonest.
 Yet how would Hunt get us out of the EU and the Backstop?
 
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At least he's not a tiresome moralising politically correct robot. That would really be depressing. 
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		|  26-06-2019, 15:40 | #488 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Who cares about his private life, Seph? That is just an entertaining distraction. 
At least he's not a tiresome moralising politically correct robot. That would really be depressing. 
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		|  26-06-2019, 16:25 | #489 |  
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	Until Sunday, that's how I saw Boris - unconventional, purposeful and a buffoon to boot.  He would be fun. not grey and miserable.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Who cares about his private life, Seph? That is just an entertaining distraction.
 At least he's not a tiresome moralising politically correct robot. That would really be depressing.<SNIP>
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		|  26-06-2019, 17:10 | #490 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Until Sunday, that's how I saw Boris - unconventional, purposeful and a buffoon to boot.  He would be fun. not grey and miserable.
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Michael Howard lost the 2005 election to Tony Blair./ |  Not much going on really for him then, just a long list of him failing and losing really, sounds like the perfect guy to revitalise bozos campaign 
 
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Who cares about his private life, Seph? That is just an entertaining distraction.
 At least he's not a tiresome moralising politically correct robot. That would really be depressing.
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		|  26-06-2019, 21:13 | #492 |  
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	If only, OB.  The infamous photo and his blathering under questioning leaves me with a sour taste.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  You can get 4/1 on Hunt, looking like tempting odds... |  Damn he's 7/2 now, should have taken 4/1, still great odds though !
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		|  26-06-2019, 23:12 | #495 |  
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			Still can't see him winning. If it was a vote of the general population then maybe but no way does Hunt ever win amongst the members.
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