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		|  13-06-2019, 12:48 | #3406 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick  It’s not about caring, cannot care about negative rubbish, created to install fear. It does not work with me. The way you carry on and on about baseless information, because that’s all it is, is tiresome ianch99. There is no reason information about negative crap put forward by Remainers because they think we cannot survive outside a corrupt organisation. We can and we will. That is what was voted for. |  I know you do not care about the consequences of a No Deal, that is the point I made.
		 
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		|  13-06-2019, 12:49 | #3407 |  
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			Presumably Turkey worked towards getting the status it has and, you know, made preparations in the months and years prior?
 Since 2016 we’ve went from the easiest negotiation in human history to Theresa’s deal to potentially no deal? Where’s our preparation?
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		|  13-06-2019, 12:49 | #3408 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  post 35998909 |  Thank you. Your indifference to the effects of No Deal on your fellow citizens says it all.
		 
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		|  13-06-2019, 12:54 | #3409 |  
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Thank you. Your indifference to the effects of No Deal on your fellow citizens says it all. |  Any time mate, it's a pleasure to help in any way i can.
		 
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		|  13-06-2019, 13:18 | #3410 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Awkward?
 They won't let us have all the benefits of being in the EEA or other negotiated treaties, without agreeing to the terms that other countries have agreed - awkward bleeders, aren't they?
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		|  13-06-2019, 13:29 | #3411 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick  Best thing we ever did not joining it. The EU does not provide any benefits, they don’t spend their money, because it’s ours on us. They don’t do jack shit for us, only mock us and we do not need to be in their ugly corrupt club to do trade with them. |  Really? No benefits whatsoever? Not even free mobile phone roaming?
 
I can understand on balance not wanting to be in the EU even if I disagree but that's on balance. To say there's no benefit whatsoever is surprising
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		|  13-06-2019, 13:42 | #3412 |  
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					Originally Posted by jonbxx  Really? No benefits whatsoever? Not even free mobile phone roaming?
 I can understand on balance not wanting to be in the EU even if I disagree but that's on balance. To say there's no benefit whatsoever is surprising
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	They'll demand the 39 billion as the price for any association.  They've already said that'll be part of the price for a trade deal.Quote: 
	
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		|  13-06-2019, 15:15 | #3414 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  Now we see why  you want to remain,pokemon on holiday in Benidorm.  |  I didn't say it was a big benefit but is still a benefit. 
 
Mind you, my average monthly work mobile bill went from around £60 a month to £25. My company has around 75,000 employees across the EU so it adds up...
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		|  13-06-2019, 15:58 | #3415 |  
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					Originally Posted by jonbxx  My company has around 75,000 employees across the EU so it adds up... |  
. . . are you an Uber Driver?       
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		|  13-06-2019, 16:00 | #3416 |  
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					Originally Posted by Carth  . . . are you an Uber Driver?      |  If he was he wouldn't be an employee    |  
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	It is a big benefit, IMO.  But then the Working Time Directive and the extra burden now put onto UK employers to keep the French working practices happy is an example of why we should plough our own furrow.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by jonbxx  I didn't say it was a big benefit but is still a benefit. 
 Mind you, my average monthly work mobile bill went from around £60 a month to £25. My company has around 75,000 employees across the EU so it adds up...
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 ANd before any of you stupidly ask if I want to see workers' rights repealed - no I don't.  But I don't want an competitive advantage we have by being flexible further eroded by the EU especially under the fake guise of H&S.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  It is a big benefit, IMO.  But then the Working Time Directive and the extra burden now put onto UK employers to keep the French working practices happy is an example of why we should plough our own furrow.
 ANd before any of you stupidly ask if I want to see workers' rights repealed - no I don't.  But I don't want an competitive advantage we have by being flexible further eroded by the EU especially under the fake guise of H&S.
 
 |  This assumes we will have people willing to work these hours. If as is claimed, we have a shortage of workers, making their working hours longer is not really conducive to retaining staff. All this without the dangers of over long hours for those who drive for a living.
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		|  13-06-2019, 17:06 | #3419 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  It is a big benefit, IMO.  But then the Working Time Directive and the extra burden now put onto UK employers to keep the French working practices happy is an example of why we should plough our own furrow.
 ANd before any of you stupidly ask if I want to see workers' rights repealed - no I don't.  But I don't want an competitive advantage we have by being flexible further eroded by the EU especially under the fake guise of H&S.
 
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		|  13-06-2019, 17:22 | #3420 |  
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	Who said anything about working longer hour other than you?  Through the opt out, we can work longer hours if we want to.  It’s about sovereignty and not introducing more overheads on companies tring to compete with their European counterparts.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Angua  This assumes we will have people willing to work these hours. If as is claimed, we have a shortage of workers, making their working hours longer is not really conducive to retaining staff. All this without the dangers of over long hours for those who drive for a living. |  
 
 
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	Literally?  I think not. Ploughing our own furrow is not taking more burden from the CJEU.  Why do you so blatantly misinterpret my very clear words?Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by jfman  In paragraph one you literally say you do want the erosion of workers’ rights. |  
 
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